IG-64 Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 Whats the best expansion pack you've ever seen for a game?
El Sitherino Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 Originally posted by Sivy jedi knight - mysteries of the sith ditto.
RpTheHotrod Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 Brood Wars Lord of Destruction EverQuest Expansions until Luclin and afterwards.
Evil Dark Jedi Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 Frozen Throne. And thats about it even though I havent played Frozen Throne but I hear it is good.
Astrotoy7 Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 XW vs Tie - Balance of Power Campaigns JK - MoTS NWN - Hordes of the Underdark SW OT - DVDSEs mtfbwya
txa1265 Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 - Mysteries of the Sith for Jedi Knight - Hordes of the Underdark for Neverwinter Nights ... - United Offensive for Call of Duty The first two are epics, the last is just lots of fun and almost as long as the (very short) original. Mike
Spider AL Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 Hmm since MotS had engine modifications and could run independently without accessing ANY JK1 resources barring one simple copy protection file that was easily circumvented, I don't think it qualifies as an "expansion" pack. Good game though. Best expansion packs... Hmm. Scourge of Armagon for Q1 has some of the best level design and old school enemies in ANY game EVER... Tales of the Sword Coast made Baldur's Gate even more engrossing with its dank dungeons, psycho-dramas and lest we forget, demons. Throne of Bhaal was perhaps better atmospherically than Baldur's Gate 2 ever was... That's the short list and all I can think of right now.
BawBag™ Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 Originally posted by Spider AL Hmm since MotS had engine modifications and could run independently without accessing ANY JK1 resources barring one simple copy protection file that was easily circumvented, I don't think it qualifies as an "expansion" pack. Good game though. Nevertheless, it is still an expansion pack. ; ) And it gets my vote.
Nerd_Annhilator Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 NWN: HotU or Operation Flashpoint: Resistance
Spider AL Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 I've thought of another one, Yuri's Revenge for RA2. Rather nice that. Also, Zerstorer for Q1 deserves at least an honourable mention despite being an unofficial TC, due to its influential status in the modding and mapping communities. Likewise "They Hunger" for HL. Nevertheless, it is still an expansion pack. ; )Very detailed argument there, but wrong. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE MotS, especially the Sith temple levels. But LEC could have called it a hamburger. That wouldn't make it a hamburger though, would it. And since it doesn't "expand" on the original game resources nor use the original game engine, it's quite simply NOT an expansion to JK1. it's a small standalone game. Additionally I think it's insulting to the individuality of MotS to call it an expansion when it was worked on by a completely different dev-team to the original with different goals in terms of atmosphere and EU content.
txa1265 Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 Originally posted by Spider AL But LEC could have called it a hamburger. That wouldn't make it a hamburger though, would it. mmmm .... hamburger ... crunchy hamburger ... eh, what was that ?!? Originally posted by Spider AL And since it doesn't "expand" on the original game resources nor use the original game engine, it's quite simply NOT an expansion to JK1. it's a small standalone game. Additionally I think it's insulting to the individuality of MotS to call it an expansion when it was worked on by a completely different dev-team to the original with different goals in terms of atmosphere and EU content. Very true and well said. It is just funny that is it marketed and remembered as an expansion - which has only muddied the waters in other arguments (particularly JA). Mike
txa1265 Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 Originally posted by GothiX Bloodmoon. That's for Morrowind, right? (I do know that, having played, but it helps to identify for people) Also - anyone play Wages of SiN? I just got SiN Gold for the Mac, which has both the original SiN and the expansion. Mike
Sivy Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 i thought MOTS used an enhanced version of the jedi knight engine, not a different one. i could be wrong but i'm sure i read that somewhere. and as for it having different developers, so did COD: United Offensive. i guess it treads a fine line, but i would still call it an expansion pack.
Spider AL Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 i thought MOTS used an enhanced version of the jedi knight engine, not a different one. i could be wrong but i'm sure i read that somewhere.Absolutely the engine MotS used was enhanced using the original JK engine as a base, but JO used an enhanced Q3 engine as a base. JO wasn't an "expansion pack" for Quake 3 just because its devteam used id's engine as a starting point. The two games run completely independantly of each other. There's a simple rule of thumb to tell whether something's an "expansion pack" or not. Does it expand the content of the original game, in other words, do you double click on "originalgame.exe" to use the new, expanded content? But this debate has occurred before in the JO and JA forums, I'll try to find a link.
narfblat Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 Originally posted by GothiX Bloodmoon. I like Bloodmoon too, but Tribunal is my favorite. I appreciate how much they enhanced and fixed the original version of Morrowind when they made these expansions.
Mike Windu Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 StarCraft: Brood War the worst expansions, I must say, are the countless Sim additions. Hooray I get 2 new items and 3 new sets of clothing and my sims can have magic wands!
Pie™ Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 diablo 2: lord of destruction really added a lot of great stuff
Samuel Dravis Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 MotS, Descent 3: Mercenary (It was a "Whoa!" feeling for that one), HotU.
Doomie Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 Just about everything you guys have alrady said. But especially MotS. We still play that on our annual LAN-party.
jon_hill987 Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 opposing force for half-life. the STV elite force expantion pack was rubbish though. I havn't got any others.
CapNColostomy Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 It's not out yet, but I'm looking forward to Joint Operations: Escalation.
Treacherous Mercenary Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 I'll have to say Call of Duty: United Offensive. It adds some weapons which help balance out everything in TDM and the maps are bigger with tanks and jeeps! Not to mention the satisfaction of grabbing and anti-tank weapon and blowing the tank to bits.
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