FiEND_138 Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 In the Clone Wars cartoon, didn't Obi-Wan block projectile weapons form Durge with his hand, or use the force to stop/spread them away from him? Yes I know it's a cartoon thus EU, but someone earlier used games as an example so...................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryllith Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 Originally posted by DarthBuzzard ah, you would've been correct if you had paid attention, and i made that clearer. so i was never wrong, just missunderstood; i left out the .55s as its falling speed. Actually I did pay attention and understood the equation fine. I also saw quite plainly that the .55 cm/s wasn't determined as the projectile's forward movement, but you labeled it as the "speed of a standard rifle bullet" which is just plain incorrect. So yeah, if you'd labeled it "the falling speed of a standard rifle bullet" then that would be a different matter. Course, to that end, were you talking about the falling speed of the blaster when you said "since speed of a blaster (speed of light: 186,000 MILES PER SECOND) versus the speed of a standard rifle bullet (.55 CENTIMETERS PER SECOND)"? I suppose that would be true if you were firing it straight down. The main issue I have that you appear to be talking about lateral speed with one weapon and falling speed with the other, but you don't specify this which means anyone who skips to the final answer is liable to think you majorly botched your math. Kryllith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant_kettch Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 yeah, i didn't want to bother reading the detail of all your math, i skimmed it for major errors, and looked at your nswer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomie Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 Alright, first: Darthbuzzard rules. No way would i have been able to calculate that, while i AM pretty smart... and 14... And now, why blasters own bullets: 1. blaster bolts go faster. (I think that is firmly established) 2. You can stuff more blaster ammo in a clip. 3. Blasters are probably stronger. and abut Vader blocking the blaster bolts: perhaps that's because of his armored cybernetic arm... at least, that's what i always thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 I thought that Vader used some kind of Force projection from his hands to burst the shots apart before they hit him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebelScum! Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 : its just not SW without laserguns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant_kettch Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 blasters are soooo much cooler. But, we know that vader's suit(at least parts of it) is resistant to a lightsaber,(you see luke hit it in ESB i believe and sparks fly off, but does not penetrate, so i think his suit could either absorb or disipate the energy from a blaster shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primalunderdog Posted November 5, 2004 Author Share Posted November 5, 2004 I guess you guys are right, but what about the jedi not being able to block it because they go so fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebelScum! Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 Originally posted by primalunderdog I guess you guys are right, but what about the jedi not being able to block it because they go so fast. The force is powerfull....They could dodge it or force push it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primalunderdog Posted November 11, 2004 Author Share Posted November 11, 2004 what about when they run out of force? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Originally posted by primalunderdog what about when they run out of force? Unless all life in the universe suddenly become non existant the Force will not run out. And the reason Force powers run out in games is so that it makes it more challenging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 The Force in the movies isn't like it is in video games. There is no bar counting down every time a Jedi uses it. Yoda: Use the force you must concentrate. Luke: I'm waiting for my bar to fill back up, give a guy a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Originally posted by Hannibal Yoda: Use the force you must concentrate. Luke: I'm waiting for my bar to fill back up, give a guy a break. Yoda: Luke, find powerups must you, extend your Force bar. Then and only then, a Jedi will you be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pho3nix Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 It's SCI-FI man..sci-fi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primalunderdog Posted November 13, 2004 Author Share Posted November 13, 2004 Yeah,if it's in the script,anything can happen.LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman4183 Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Sorry, but no matter how you look at it, Jedi wouldent be able to stop a fuggen mini gun...Im talken Jessie Ventura in Predator Mini gun. Mini+Jessie Ventura=Dead Jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swphreak Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 A machine gun fires bullets. Bullets would be a lot easier to block with the force then an energy bolt. Sure, you miht get a Jedi Padawan with a minigun, but a Kninght? Possibly, if he wasn't looking. A Jedi Master? Highly doubtful. And for kicks, A Sith? Impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt. Bannon Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 OK darthbuzzard, here's where you go wrong: D=vt =88,400 cm2 * .55s = 48,620 cm = 468.2 meters. There for, it can be speculated that while having a much more limited distance travel than blasters due to the fact that gravity will have a much more limited effect on the trajectory of a concentrated energy blast of say a stormtrooper rifle vs. a projectile lead bullet of a rifle, it can also be speculated since speed of a blaster (speed of light: 186,000 MILES PER SECOND) versus the speed of a standard rifle bullet (.88400 CENTIMETERS PER SECOND.) OK. You got the formula right, but you need to convert everything to meters and m/s and m/s² (acceleration=meters per second squared) So now you have 1.5 meters to fall ('bout right), -9.8 m/s², which the acceleration of gravity here on Earth (so other planets would have larger or smaller accelerations) This gives you 0.55s as the time it takes for the bullet to hit the ground when fired horizontally, but then you get lost. Lets assume the bullet has a muzzle velocity is 838m/s, so the bullet travels ~461m before it hits the ground 0.55s later. (thats 1,511.75 ft) Now, the speed of light is 300,000m/s, while a bullet has a velocity of 838m/s and it follows a much more sophisticated ballistic trajectory. However, the most solid theory behind the blasters is magnetically contained plasma. (plasma is a partially or fully ionized gas which can assume many forms. For instance lightning and the aurora borealis are natural forms of plasma. Plasmas are useful in many applications such as welding, semiconductor processing, plasma spraying, hazardous waste destruction and lighting among others. Thermal plasmas are a kind of plasma characterized by partial thermal equilibrium (i.e. the electron temperature is equal to the heavy particle temperature), high energy content, high temperatures and high luminosity.) This explains the power packs (needs power to project magnetic fields and heat the gasses), the speed (its most definately slower than light), and the destructive/explosive force. Plasma will create an explosive reaction because it is superheated, while light only causes heat because it charges the electrons in the affected atoms to jump to a higher energy level and increase the movement of the atom (movement=heat) So basically, a laser will cause you to boil, and then explode, but plasma willl just severely burn you (read: burn through you and your armor) edit: oh yeah, and in reference to the DF/JK series, you dorgot the Imperial Heavy Repeater and the Bowcaster. both of which use "Metallic bolts" The IHR uses bullets encased in energy (think super-bullet) and the bowcaster actually uses metallic slugs that I would guess to be bigger than a .50 cal bullet (again encased in energy) Please use the edit button instead of double posting - coupes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primalunderdog Posted November 21, 2004 Author Share Posted November 21, 2004 Well that settles it,one qeustion,what does vt mean in D=vt,i thought it means velocity,but it can't because it means velocity and trojectory right?Everything else i get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pho3nix Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Mehh...This is getting a little too technical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt. Bannon Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Distance = velocity X time Also note that velocity is a vector quantity, meaning that it must also be accurate pertaining to direction as well as speed. velocity != speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Just so there's not missunderstanding on this point: Speed of light = 300,000,000 m/s Or more precies: 299,792,458 m/s How fast is that? alittle over 1 second from here to the moon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt. Bannon Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 whoops. going from memory always messes up figures (not to mention scientific notation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wassup Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Star Wars is science FICTION. It doesn't have to be real nor rational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Actually, I believe Star Wars comes under the Science Fantasy catagory, which makes it able to be even less real or rational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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