stingerhs Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 oooo, wait, aren't all those questions going to be cleared up in a game????? [/sarcasm] sorry, but if i have to have all my answers about the matrix trilogy answered in a mmorpg (the matrix online), then what good is that going to do for people that don't play games??? not mention what it's supposed to do to gamers that despise the mmorpg genre??? i swear those guys were smokin some really strong stuff when they came up with that idea..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revan Solo Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Originally posted by Nairb Notneb LOTR is better only in movie form and in its complete epic and classic sense. I personally loved the ending of Matrix and thought that it was perfect for the series. The theme of Matrix is "What is reality?" and in the end you are still asking that very same question. Is there a TV series about Matrix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nairb Notneb Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Leaving all of those questions unanswered is what made the ending so great. I love those kind of endings. It makes a movie last in that it is debatable. It has meat to it, depth. At the beginning of the Matrix we have two factions, the Machines and the Humans locked in a war. At the end we have three factions, the humans, the machines and the Oracle who now controls the matrix. They each depend on the other in some way to survive, the machines especially. Could the humans really survive at this point without the machines driving them? We know the machines can't survive without the humans as a power source, and the Matrix can't survive without either. The truce is uneasy because the machines must have the Matrix and the humans to survive. The humans can't successfully repel the machines, nor could they turn off the matrix. Their only defense is the fact that the machines and the Oracle need some humans. This is why I enjoyed this movie because I thought the ending was perfect. The last two movies were lacking, especially in the fight scenes between Neo and Smith, they simply dragged on and on and on and on and on and on and on etc. until I couldn't stand it any more. The last movie barely had the main characters in it at all and there were many scene that had no business being in the movie. It could have been condensed down to about 30 minutes to get the gist of the plot and it would have been a better "movie". I do believe that it is one of the best stories out there however. LOTR is one of the top epic movies and stories ever created and anyone that argues against that should be flamed. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Since they stated that the official ending of the Matrix would come with the Matrix Online, Revolution's ending is not the full. That became a huge insult against movie goers. They purposely left many elements unanswered for you to discover in the Matrix Online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nairb Notneb Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 I agree, I think that's stupid, to say it in the least. I think that the fantasy world of "The Matrix" that was created is fantastic and there is a lot there to be explored because there is a lot that can be done with it. I have always seen it as a sort of combination of "Terminator" and "Tron" with a fairy tale "Choosen One" hero thrown in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Originally posted by stingerhs i swear those guys were smokin some really strong stuff when they came up with that idea..... I actually have a feeling they were snorting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted January 17, 2005 Share Posted January 17, 2005 Originally posted by Nairb Notneb Leaving all of those questions unanswered is what made the ending so great. Or it might just be bad story writing with poor editing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revan Solo Posted January 17, 2005 Share Posted January 17, 2005 I asked it somewhere in this topic before but nobody still answered... Is there a TV series from Matrix? Someone said something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted January 17, 2005 Share Posted January 17, 2005 Never heard of any TV series for Matrix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivy Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 i like the matrix, mainly for the special effects and cool kung-fu, storywise it was meh. lotr wins because its a great story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamps Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 I liked the Matrix, (at least the first and second ones). The their one was less than average (sucked) but it did end it in a way. We still don't know if Neo died, what happened to humanity, and all those other questions that should have been answered though, but I thought the series overall was great. I've only seen the first two "Lord of the Rings" films though (which I liked the second one better.) Matrix >>Lord of the Rings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth NeoVenom Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 Neo's dead at the end of Revolutions. He sacrificed himself to save Zion from the Sentinels. Every "One" does at some point and his time was up. I like both all three LOTR movues and The Matrix Trilogy, but I like the Matrix better. Also I hate Matrix Online just for the fact that I gotta pay $15 a month just to play it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Windu Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 Seraph is never fully developed, either. Was he the One before Neo? Is he just a badass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokill Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 erm arent these 2 things completly difrent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt-Man Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 LotR P0wns matrix, why? becuase all of the LotR movies were freaken awesome, the matrix trilogy however, the first one was absoulutly so cool, the second and third weren't good at all, third was better than the second but still nto a great movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth NeoVenom Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Revolution was better than Reloaded? I disagree with that but hey...everyone has their own opinion. In my opinion, all three Matrix movies were good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-64 Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 LotR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Matrix No contest. LotR wasn't trying to be as "cool" as possible. But IMHO, it came anyways. Shades and trench coats will only get you so far. Don't get me wrong though, I actually did llike The Matrix. But not nearly as much as LotR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryllith Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 LotR of course, but then, we are talking about Tolkein. Fellowship was the best movie I'd ever seen at the time, bar none, and I was very disappointed that it only got 4 academy awards (course, this was the year Halle Berry (Monster's Ball) beat out Nicole Kidman (Moulin Rouge) so I'm pretty sure they were on something). The extended versions topped the originals, and the follow up movies were as good, if not better than the first. As for the Matrix, the first one was excellent. Unfortunately it went down from there. At the end of the first, Neo had apparently become a virtual god, yet for some reason he felt the need to fight everyone hand-to-hand... please. The second one was ok, but overdone. The battle with Smith was far too long and the overuse of stop motion was crap. Frankly the slowing down aspects are good to show things that move too fast for the human eye to see (the gunfight with Trinity falling worked well), but to slow it down just to vogue out is stupid. Then there's the whole rave scene with Morpheus changing from the soft-spoken, well dressed leader of a special group of techies into some tribal shaman just wrecked him for me. Mind you, if you edited out about a half hour or so of the movie, it could be much better. I prefered the third to the second, since some of the aspects that made me dislike the second were toned down in the third. We had more focus on the literal battle between Zion and the machines along with Neo and Trinity going off to face the machines directly. Apparently unlike many others, I didn't have a problem with the ending, since time marches on and there are other people's stories to tell... Kryllith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Lol, Monsters Ball (When porn went oscars!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Well she did deserve the oscar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebelScum! Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 Has to be lotr...matrix falls short of a masterpiece like that. Oh and by the way LOTR freak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 Originally posted by lukeiamyourdad Well she did deserve the oscar Hell yeah she did. That was a sweet scene. Just wish it coulda been me instead of... Billy Bob:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 We know what really caused his divorce with Angelina Jolie. Back on topic now people, nothing to see here, move along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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