Windu Chi Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 I pose this question because most people really believe that money dictates every direction of our society. I do believe or I could be wrong, that if the planet was threaten with a danger that could destroy the planet, I don't believe the governments of this world will be worrying about how much money it will cost to save the planet. I will give this example: If Earth was threaten with a human species ending danger such as a micro blackhole that could destroy the planet whole. I don't believe that the people on this planet will worry about how much money it will cost, say 200 trillion or something higher than that. If people on this planet, like the people in all the world's government do worry. Then I will have to say, our stupid ass deserve to be wipe out if we are that damn stupid and depended on money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Jones Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 I do believe or I could be wrong, that if the planet was threaten with a danger that could destroy the planet I don't believe the governments of this world will be worrying about how much money it will cost.You believe that you don't believe? Or are you wrong not believing it? I will give this example: If Earth was threaten with a human species ending danger such a micro blackhole that could destroy the planet whole.What if it is a normal black hole? And I'm not sure what to do about a micro black hole? Darn it? I don't believe that the people on this planet will worry about how much money it will cost, say 200 trillion or something higher than that. If people on this planet, like the people in all the world's government do worry. Could you please rephrase that? Oh, and.. I'm just curious.. is there a scheme behind the way you use these colours? I mean, like green is walk and red stop? Or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windu Chi Posted October 26, 2006 Author Share Posted October 26, 2006 You believe that you don't believe? Or are you wrong not believing it?I meant to say I don't believe all the worlds government will worry about how much it cost to save the planet. Yes, I said, "I may be wrong", because this world may be that addicted to money. What if it is a normal black hole? And I'm not sure what to do about a micro black hole? Darn it? Well, that will be a more difficult task. Well, a micro-blackhole is theorize to be created if those new particle accelerators, the scientists are building is turn on. Oh, and.. I'm just curious.. is there a scheme behind the way you use these colours? I mean, like green is walk and red stop? Or something? Well, in this case I used lime green for money. Red, I might used for something I don't agree with or hate. As you know from that holocaust thread. Which you know I really hate the holocaust. So, that is some of the examples of what I use colors for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 I meant to say I don't believe all the worlds government will worry about how much it cost to save the planet. Yes, I said, I may be wrong, because this world may be that addicted to money. Corporations are, at the very least, working towards the greater net gain. You lose quite a bit of capital when the planet you're working on is destroyed by a meteor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Well, in this case I used lime green for money. Red, I might used for something I don't agree with or hate. As you know from that holocaust thread. Which you know I really hate the holocaust. So, that is some of the examples what I use colors for. Well thanks for clarifying your thoughts through the art of color-coding, I find it very helpful in determining what side of the argument you're on. In the example you gave, where a micro black hole approaches Earth, I'm gonna go ahead and say that money'd probably be sucked in as well, so my answer to the poll question is "No." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Most illogical question ever. Honestly, even the people who seem to care only about money care about not dying even more. If they are destroyed they won't be able to make any more money or spend it on silly things. I cannot even fathom why this question would be of any concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagobahn Eagle Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 What ET said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totenkopf Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Seems that money might be incidental, anyway. Assuming your micro black hole were set to rip the world apart, we're basically to technologically primitive to stop it. Sort of like if the sun went supernova, how much money could you spend in 8 minutes anyhow and what good would it do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windu Chi Posted October 26, 2006 Author Share Posted October 26, 2006 Most illogical question ever.Why is this a illogical question? You should think about it more. Honestly, even the people who seem to care only about money care about not dying even more. If they are destroyed they won't be able to make any more money or spend it on silly things. What are you talking about? There are people who are that way on this planet. Some people on this world will betray their entire family for a certain amount of money. I cannot even fathom why this question would be of any concern. Well, you must didn't understand my question then. It seems to me that, everything on this world seem to revolve around the dictation of money. So, I just wanted to get other people's opinions, about if they believe money is ultimate the deciding factor for our society. If you really believe that some people don't care more about the paper then their lives, then you don't really understand human behavior that well. Also don't take this as an offense, I am not trying offend you. I just want to know why you think that. There are various mind sets of the human psyche on this world. Ok, I will give you another example. What if there was a deadly disease kinda like AIDS, but it's airborne. That was causing major human fatalities, but it cost to much money to come with a cure in the limited amount of time to try to save all the human race; they can only save a few. Do you think the planet will worry, after the outbreak is over worry about paying for the spend resources lost and the economic damage to the planet during the epidemic. I have ask this, since it cost so much damn money for people to get a cure or treatment to some diseases today. I was wondering will this hold up in such a emergency such as that example, I just gave. I believe it might, since so much people is dependent on currency in this society. Even though I have poll no, reason is I hope I don't live on a planet that is that stupid. But I do have my doubts of the intelligence of some people in power on this planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 [spock] "A fascinating conclusion. However, you're logic is flawed." [/spock] If we're all about to snuff it, I think it's safe to say that nobody, even people like Big Bill, would worry about forking out everything they had to insure the survival of the human race. It's called the survival instinct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windu Chi Posted October 26, 2006 Author Share Posted October 26, 2006 [spock] "A fascinating conclusion. However, you're logic is flawed." [/spock] If we're all about to snuff it, I think it's safe to say that nobody, even people like Big Bill, would worry about forking out everything they had to insure the survival of the human race. It's called the survival instinct. Who is "Big Bill"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Big Bill = Bill Gates = Anti-Christ. Just to clarify, 'Big Bill' is a play on Big Brother from George Orwell's book Nineteen Eighty Four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windu Chi Posted October 26, 2006 Author Share Posted October 26, 2006 Big Bill = Bill Gates = Anti-Christ.Oh, I understand what you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Some people on this world will betray their entire family for a certain amount of money.I don't doubt that, but I highly doubt you'd find ANYONE who would be willing to DIE for any amount of money. That is the point, and why this thread doesn't make any sense. There is NOBODY that would choose money over their own survival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jae Onasi Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 My experience is that no one has ever said on their deathbed "Gee, I wish I'd made more money". It's usually, when they can, something along the lines of "I wish I'd spent more time with family" or "I wish I'd been able to be a better person to my kids/father/mother/family members/friends." If you're talking about imminent but preventable global destruction, I think we'll all be putting whatever resources we could into staying alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windu Chi Posted October 26, 2006 Author Share Posted October 26, 2006 I don't doubt that, but I highly doubt you'd find ANYONE who would be willing to DIE for any amount of money. That is the point, and why this thread doesn't make any sense. There is NOBODY that would choose money over their own survival. There are people who will die for something. Suicide bombers die for something all the time. Maybe some of them will die for money, to go to their love ones of course. Unless you can enjoy your wealth as a ghost somewhere. Philosophy: Since that is your belief, do you believe the money in your pocket is ultimately worthless, from a philosopher's point of view? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Yes, there are people who would die for something. I would die for many causes. Just for ****s and giggles, I refer to Mahatma Gandhi, who said: Let us all be brave enough to die the death of a martyr, but let no one lust for martyrdom. But suicide bombers don't die for money. They die to cleanse the Earth of us Capitalist dogs. They die to fight us and our Godless western culture. Money has nothing to do with it, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Devon Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 I find money to be a bad enough thing already, which I only use because I can't live without it. If it wasn't necessary, I would gladly glad rid of it. Money, IMO, is an overrated concept. It'll do me even less good if I'm doomed. If someone would actually be thinking about ways to make more of it before the Earth's imminent destruction, I'm not sure whether they should be pitied or stoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windu Chi Posted October 27, 2006 Author Share Posted October 27, 2006 I find money to be a bad enough thing already, which I only use because I can't live without it. If it wasn't necessary, I would gladly glad rid of it. Money, IMO, is an overrated concept. I exactly agree with you, Devon. I really hate money. I wish I could do without it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mace MacLeod Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 This really doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Sure, lots of people have killed and died in pursuit of money, but what good is money going to do anybody if the entire planet's destroyed? Would the human race be prepared to fork out X% of the world's capital to ensure its survival? Of course it would. Individuals might die for money or declare themselves legally dead for tax purposes, but the whole species? Kind of silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windu Chi Posted October 27, 2006 Author Share Posted October 27, 2006 This really doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Sure, lots of people have killed and died in pursuit of money, but what good is money going to do anybody if the entire planet's destroyed? Would the human race be prepared to fork out X% of the world's capital to ensure its survival? Of course it would. Individuals might die for money or declare themselves legally dead for tax purposes, but the whole species? Kind of silly. So, do you believe the money in your pocket is ultimately worthless, from a philosopher's point of view? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mace MacLeod Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 If I'm not alive to spend it, yes. Self-preservation > Greed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windu Chi Posted October 27, 2006 Author Share Posted October 27, 2006 If I'm not alive to spend it, yes. Self-preservation > Greed. You must didn't understand my question? Mace! I was saying, since you believe that society won't have no fuss about saving their asses, by saying damn the amount of money to ensure their survival. Which I mean: Base off your decision, do you agree that the money that is in your pocket now today. Is worthless right NOW, in relation to if a disaster that threaten the human species ever happen. For anybody else who still don't understand my philosophy question: If society don't care how much money it take to save their selves . Then people in society today should look at their money as worthless paper to be discarded. They should have this mind set always. Since that money will not matter no more if Earth is threaten with Annihilation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samnmax221 Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Ok lets sum up a thing called capitalism quickly here. Capitalism is when contracts are drawn up dealing with goods and services. Despite what may happen in the future I will not stop operating this way, no one will lay false claim to what is mine, no one will seize what is mine by force, all deals will be by my consent. People who were able to "earn" money before said disaster will probebly still be able to support themselves after this disaster, these people posses skills and knowledge that are in demand and will be able to earn a living like before. There are of course many unskilled people in the world, such as your average conspiracy theorist, these people will probebly starve while some of us try to rebuild the world. AND YOU KNOW IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Then people in society today should look at their money as worthless paper to be discarded. They should have this mind set always. Since that money will not matter no more if Earth is threaten with Armageddon. Well, wait. That's a slightly different situation than what you originally proposed. Before, you asked that in the case of an impending Armageddon would the greedy use their money to save themselves and the planet. Now you're asking why won't people realize money is worthless because the destruction of the world will render it moot anyway; the flaw with your situation is that it's only a threat of Armageddon, not that it is impending and actual. Even the most stingy of people know that life is fleeting; what they try to do is amass as great a fortune as they can. If there's only a chance that their world will fall apart, it's just a gamble and nothing more(especially more so if the world ends after their death); if it is certain the world will be destroyed, of course they will spend their money to save the world. It's always the rational choice to try and keep some of your riches rather than lose it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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