[WIP]Compability Mod Pack,CMP

[Darth InSidious]

certainly not, I was just hoping someone could make sense of it. decreasing compatibility certainly is a very valid argument. I know forums are a hard place, and a second meaning is often intended, comments can be considered snide without meaning to, and tempers get high.

 

but I'm the kind of person that tries to get things discussed, explained and in the open. which means a lot of trouble, sometimes more than it is worth.

Frankly, the entire mood and method in which this mod project was assembled leads to the somewhat inescapable conclusion on the parts of a few of us that this is a cheap attempt to grab 'glory' from the mods included without actually having to do much hard modding. It's unnecessary, unwieldy, may actually cause incompatibility, and will also cause much confusion as to who is the author of the component mods - after all, who ever reads the credit lists in readme files?

[LordRevan999]

Excuse me,but Darth Insidious you are wrong that we are doing this for glory or whatever you call it.The purpose of this pack is to give compability to mods especially the ones which include appearance.2da.If you and I can mod this doesn't mean everyone can mod so many have the problem of making two or three mods compatible so they can play all of them.

If you still think we are here for glory then you are wrong.I am not attacking on anyone I am trying to explain this to you people.After all that happened in the last thread I don't wish to make it happen here(At that time I was not Incharge).

Please tell us why?

Look at murdrax he asked to make a pack of mods.Atleast only few are here to understand what we are doing.

[JFSOCC]

after all, who ever reads the credit lists in readme files?

I do. but those who don't, also wouldn't pay attention to the author of the original release. but fair enough.

[Inyri]

Sure they would. They're always eager to say "omg _____ i luv u marry me and have my children!" to whoever's name is on the file page.

[jonathan7]

What I find very curious is I would understand it if you wanted to marry several mods togeather, but instead you just want to include every mod ever made; which will lead to clashes.

 

I don't understand either why you are bugging those who have requested that their mods are not included; its their hard work so their decision. I also dislike the way this was done; you should of approached all the authers individually to ask if you could use their work, instead of having an 'opt' out system; instead it seems that you are trying to blackmail/shame those who don't want their mod included by naming them in the first post; "Permission needed from" as you have left in the names of individuals who have stated they don't want to be included. It also seems that you have put very little effort into your first post; given that, is the project going to be a success? And not to be inflammatory but I tend to agree with DI's point.

 

Just my 2 cents.

[LordRevan999]

Sorry everyone,for not removing names of those who refused.I didn't want to blame/shame those who refused I just didn't paid attention to the list.I thought I removed those names.Any how thanks jonathan7 for telling me my mistake.I am sorry if anyone has taken this as a blame/shame.

And one more thing what does inflammatory means seriously I am not English.

[Stream]

It means provocative, also i do understand why some authors don't want their work included, most of them nowadays use TSL Patcher so that their work is compatible with others, if you included them in a big pack you would have to make new .2da files and that in itself may cause a problem, if you miss something it could mess up the mod completely, I'm not saying you will but it could happen we all make mistakes.

 

--Stream

[Marius Fett]

Look, personally I don't mind you using my mods, but there are quite a few who do.

I suggest you do something like this:

 

Download all the mods you want compatible. Take the 2da files and JRL files etc from those mods and merge them so you have just one 2da/JRL with all the mods data in them.

 

Then release these files without the actual mods and just link to the mods in the readme.

[Darkkender]

Look, personally I don't mind you using my mods, but there are quite a few who do.

I suggest you do something like this:

 

Download all the mods you want compatible. Take the 2da files and JRL files etc from those mods and merge them so you have just one 2da/JRL with all the mods data in them.

 

Then release these files without the actual mods and just link to the mods in the readme.

 

This doesn't usually work so well becasue frequently you have to edit GFF files(UTI's, UTC's, etc.) to match with the 2da changes. I can recall from my own experience that doing this type of modding without gaining modder permission WILL lead to sanctions from the community.

[Marius Fett]

Hmm... I never thought of that...

 

Looks like you'll just have to make do with gthe permssion you have then.

[Taak Farst]

Wanna know my opinion? I think this is a thread basically called Need Glory, please may I reupload your mods in a pack and get all the credit?

 

Do yourself a huge favour and stick to making your own mods. The only modder ever trusted to do something like this is Darkkender.

[murdrax]

i dont see it as need glory i see it as someone who is honestly trying to help the players by making things compatable that arent already and i also dont see any pushy moves.

 

i also think this woul;d be even neater if darkkender was willuing to help out myabe even have this as a sister type project to holowan where the 2 can work together to create the biggest gathering of the best out there!!

[Ferc Kast]

Wanna know my opinion? I think this is a thread basically called Need Glory, please may I reupload your mods in a pack and get all the credit?

 

Do yourself a huge favour and stick to making your own mods. The only modder ever trusted to do something like this is Darkkender.

 

Now that I see it that way, I will take your advice. I will continue work only on my own mods; Also, I think that I will remove my mods from this pack.

 

No offense intended, but Farst does have a point there.

[LordRevan999]

Everyone please note that the project will be halted for 2 months due to my upcoming exams.Meanwhile all those who wish to tell me where I am still wrong can pm me or post a message in this thread.And Also there is a major edit in the first post read it please.

[Taak Farst]

Please everyone read this one.I have realized where I was going on and when I learned about what I had been doing is wrong.I am ashamed of myself but I want make it up for what I had done.So I have changed somethings in the mod pack.And from now on the project is to make mods compatible using tslpatcher which are not compatible or which donot use tslpatcher.I don't know whose mods are using tslpatcher and who's not.So I would first like to ask if someone can tell me the names of mods which aren't using tslpatcher.And secondly I am not removing the permission given or permission need list cause I don't know if any mod by the list given modders dont use tslpatcher.If I am wrong again somewhere please correct cause it took me time to think how to correct this thing.And from now on the mod pack is defined by its name and will be really a compability mod pack.

 

It is better sounding than before, but ~snipped~

Although it sounds better, I still stick to wat I sed, which was just do your own mods. Ferc obviously listened and took my advice. I'm sorry but Darkkender only did it because they were probably brilliant and popular mods which unfortunately were not compatible. These days most popular mods use TSLP already and the ones that aren't all that popular don't use TSLP. Basically saying, no point in this project m8.

 

Dn't take this the wrong way, I like you, but I h8 the whole idea of this project. Oh and soz but I also know criticism you arent alone there. As far as I know everyone h8's all my mods. People don't like this project! It's natural for this to happen!

[Alexander the Great]

What gives with that? If you don't like the idea of his mod, simply give him constructive criticism. LordRevan obviously wants to make things easier for people, but there's just not much point in making a compatibility mod when most mods are compatible. And how could he take credit for making all of those mods? It wouldn't even be plausible. I've never seen this much inanity over such a trivial matter...

[LordRevan999]

Thanks DDD I was so worried how to talk to these people.Moving towards the topic I have an hour so can anyone tell me how to use tslpatcher or where to even find it.

[Lordjedi]

You can find TSLPatcher on Starwarsknights.com

[Jae Onasi]

Taak Farst, there is no excuse to flame or use obscenities. You've earned a warning for that behavior.

 

Lordjedi and DarthDingDong--instead of posting about how off-topic or bad something is, use the report button. It's that little yellow dot right next to the red/green online indicator dot below someone's avatar. All you're doing with the extra posts is making the moderating staff delete not only the offending posts but yours too, and that makes extra work, on top of not letting us know about an offensive post as quickly as possible. Leave the moderating to the moderators.

 

I did quite a bit of clean-up in this thread after closing it. I'm re-opening it. Stay on topic. Cut the spam, cut the flaming, cut the foul language. If I see more of any of that, the thread will be closed.