Rathoris Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 actually i think they will be able to do just that. And with Bioware there the game is sure to bring innovation to the MMO space. I really dislike paying a mounthly fee but if they make the game as good as i think it could be i prolly will. Open beta please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endorenna Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Well, they said that they're going to have this MMO focus largely on story, so yea, I think this thing has a pretty dang good chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Except an MMO can't have a story in the same way a SPRPG can. It just can't. It can have deep, complex quest-type things and such, but as far as a real cohesive storyline goes, I don't see how it can possibly happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Rider Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Except an MMO can't have a story in the same way a SPRPG can. It just can't. It can have deep, complex quest-type things and such, but as far as a real cohesive storyline goes, I don't see how it can possibly happen. Well, it can if the MMO aspects are limited to a few really hard quests or raids and battleground places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endorenna Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Except an MMO can't have a story in the same way a SPRPG can. It just can't. It can have deep, complex quest-type things and such, but as far as a real cohesive storyline goes, I don't see how it can possibly happen. True. However, I'm hoping that Bioware has figured out a good way to integrate a deep story into an MMO. (crosses fingers for luck) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corinthian Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Two words, Doctor. Guild Wars. They design this like Guild Wars, and there will be no problems. Just have all the quests be instanced and it's fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Vougalot Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 If LucasArts kills the Knights of the Old Republic franchise, I'm sure Dark Horse and Lucas Books will continue it in literary form. There's an ongoing comic series out there right now, and a novel has already been announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikmin Posted October 24, 2008 Author Share Posted October 24, 2008 They said there will be very minimal instancing. If LucasArts kills the Knights of the Old Republic franchise, Hmm BioWare created the KotOR franchise I don't think they'll be the ones to kill it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Vougalot Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Bioware developed it. All stories, plot outlines, characters and game ideas came from LucasArts. But that's irrelevant. The point of my post is what I said about continuing the franchise in other media if the game portion of said franchise implodes on itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikmin Posted October 24, 2008 Author Share Posted October 24, 2008 All stories, plot outlines, characters and game ideas came from LucasArts. Umm, actually BioWare creates the stuff, LA approves it or dissaproves it. I remember very well Avellone(lead K2 developer) talking about how the K2 team at OE came up with the story. Seriously if LA created everything that the game relies on for it to be a game why didn't they do it themselves? I do not think the game portion is going to die. Anyway, where can I read info about the new novel other than that it MIGHT be a TOR tie-in(if it is it might be about what happened to Revan.) The Old republic series is great: Tales of the Jedi - Dark Horse Comics. Knights of the Old Republic - Dark Horse Comics. Knights of the Old Republic - BioWare Corp. The Sith Lords - Obsidian Entertainment. The Old Republic - BioWare Corp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clone L68362 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 So the story is basically Revan disappeared No mention of any other KOTOR characters Sith come and attack the Republic a few years later (original!) The Sith offer peace terms to the Republic? Are you ****ing serious? This is dumb as hell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corinthian Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Makes perfect sense to me. The Sith are content with the piece of the Galaxy they carved away with the Republic and are re-arming and getting all their infrastructure ready for Phase Two. Meanwhile, the Republic is licking it's wounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Vougalot Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Umm, actually BioWare creates the stuff, LA approves it or dissaproves it. I remember very well Avellone(lead K2 developer) talking about how the K2 team at OE came up with the story. Seriously if LA created everything that the game relies on for it to be a game why didn't they do it themselves? Sorry, my mistake. The real point of my post still stands, though. I do not think the game portion is going to die. Anyway, where can I read info about the new novel other than that it MIGHT be a TOR tie-in(if it is it might be about what happened to Revan.) Here's some info on it. It seems that it will assuredly not be answering the question of what happened to Revan as it will be set before the first game. So I have no idea when or how they will answer the question on everyone's minds. Perhaps the comic series will reach the time of the events just prior to the first game, skip a few years and cover the events between the games, and then skip a few more years relate what occurs after the second game? Perhaps there will be a second novel if the first is popular enough? Or perhaps they'll leave this mystery to our imaginations, just as they are doing with Yoda's and Palpatine's pasts? Sometimes that's the best way to go. People can draw their own conclusions. Edit: Ah, this is probably referring to Irvine's upcoming Nomi Sunrider novel. So yeah, this probably means no KOTOR book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrisG Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 I agree with Pikmin, we need to keep supportive and give them a chance to do their work, they are trying very hard and have been very candid. I am looking forward to this greatly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Yeah, I've decided to wait and see and hope for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raven10 Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 another wait! naaah, not this time, people waited for years just to get betrayed with this swtor or whatever, even forced out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusIsGonnaOwnSatan Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 i *really* want tor to be good. for the sake of kotor. but then looking at the decisions LA has made, its making me cringe. come on, LA, BioWare, *PLEASE* dont screw it up this hype about the 4th pillar: story is what redeemed it my my eyes somewhat... but after seeing the posts on the hype about tfu, im cringing agin. *cringe* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selty Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 No matter how we look at it, though, LA, Bioware and EA have just let all of us fans down. They upset me so much doing that. Not only was it random, it was uncalled-for. Imagine doing something like this for all the HP fans, or the like? It's exactly the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ztalker Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 No matter how we look at it, though, LA, Bioware and EA have just let all of us fans down. They upset me so much doing that. Not only was it random, it was uncalled-for. Imagine doing something like this for all the HP fans, or the like? It's exactly the same. Yes. The millions of Kotor members who joined the new MMO forums proof your point that they are disappointed. With all the respect, MMO's are a new genre. Like sandbox was a little while ago. MMO's are a way of allowing millions of players to interact, unlike normal games, where 15 v.s. 15 multi player matches were the ultimate on-line format. Plus, I get the feeling most people are just...angry because if the possible $ the game comes with. And, like many have said before, get a job then. Even a lousy job like mine will get me easily enough to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corinthian Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 This doesn't exactly preclude the chance of a KotoR III anyway. But people will complain about anything, and trying to stop them is like trying to stop an oncoming freight train with your bare hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ztalker Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 This doesn't exactly preclude the chance of a KotoR III anyway. But people will complain about anything, and trying to stop them is like trying to stop an oncoming freight train with your bare hands. Exactly...there's 300 years in between. ALL the space for a Kotor 3. it just grinds my gears how people complain without reading the material. Nice metaphor though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-false Jedi Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 But nothing important happens in those 300 years. "Revan never returned" is the last The Republic heard of him. Anything that KOTOR III could be about is that Revan and the Exiled failed and were never seen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corinthian Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Why on Earth would Revan WANT to come back? The Republic kind of sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ztalker Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 But nothing important happens in those 300 years. "Revan never returned" is the last The Republic heard of him. Anything that KOTOR III could be about is that Revan and the Exiled failed and were never seen again. So...only if Revan or the Exile are 'there' something interesting happens? I think the rebuilding of the Jedi order, rebuilding of the Republic, rise of the Sith, War for Coruscant disagree with you. Plus, indeed, Revan left with a reason. He told Carth and Bastilla to fix it. Why do so if you plan to go back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_vilas Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 So...only if Revan or the Exile are 'there' something interesting happens? I think the rebuilding of the Jedi order, rebuilding of the Republic, rise of the Sith, War for Coruscant disagree with you. Plus, indeed, Revan left with a reason. He told Carth and Bastilla to fix it. Why do so if you plan to go back? Perhaps to visit his mom? You have a interresting point, Revan maybe never has intended to return. Maybe he died in battle with the "true" sith (I never got that term, does it make Revan, Kreia and Sidious not-so-true sith?). Maybe he isn't dead. We just don't know. All we know that on record he hasn't returned to the republic (maybe he did, maybe he returned under a different name, found Shan and Onasi and said what was going to happen, and then retire) Also, maybe TOR will explain the sith and soldiers in FOC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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