Q Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 God, SE versions of X-Wing and TIE Fighter would be too awesome for words. I wonder if there's even a remote possibility of that ever happeneing. You know, in this era of games practically playing themselves, how well would new versions of those games, which I regarded as quite difficult, actually sell? X-Wing was near-impossible before the patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrrtoken Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 You know, in this era of games practically playing themselves, how well would new versions of those games, which I regarded as quite difficult, actually sell? X-Wing was near-impossible before the patch.They'd probably be dumbed down to the utmost level of simplicity for console-friendly gamepads. Let's face it; people are too stupid (or at least that's what publishers believe) to manage a manually-controlled throttle. Think about adding a power management system, target tracking, and wingmen commands. The resulting onslaught of complaints consisting of "IT'S TOO HARD!!!1!" would be more than enough to convince LucasArts to kill all previous franchises and start anew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druganator Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 their "exclusive info" was nothing but stupid ****. "oh look season two of our kid show!" "Star Wars:In Concert!" "oh look we made mor levels for TFU! instead of five it's got 6!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cire992 Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 First of all' date=' DOSBox has nothing to do with abandonware.[/quote'] Wikipedia: "Abandonware is computer software that is no longer sold or supported, or whose copyright ownership may be unclear for various reasons. While the term has been applied largely to older games, other classes of software are sometimes described as such." DOSBox emulates abandonware. The point is, it's free. Second' date=' abandonware isn't a legal concept.[/quote'] I'm not a lawyer, I'm just a gamer. Third' date=' this is the first time in about 5 years that LEC has even acknowledged that these games existed.[/quote'] Yeah, I forgot to mention that. Where were these re-releases when Windows API phased out MS-DOS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrrtoken Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 DOSBox emulates abandonware. The point is, it's free.DOSBox is a DOS emulator, i.e., it emulates DOS, and therefore, any DOS-based game. It isn't a game engine recreation a la ScummVM, but really an entire emulated OS and all of its dependencies.Yeah, I forgot to mention that. Where were these re-releases when Windows API phased out MS-DOS?It's not about compatibility; there's plenty of workarounds for older games on newer systems today (DOSBox, ScummVM, to name a few). It's the fact that LucasArts is finally returning to its roots, after it essentially put the final nail in the coffin for adventure gaming after reducing and eventually canceling all production of advy games. That was huge slap in the face to its core fanbase, especially when it was games like Maniac Mansion and Monkey Island that put LucasArts on the map in the first place. It's good to see LucasArts even mentioning their existence, after doing nothing but Star Wars game for the past several years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted July 26, 2009 Author Share Posted July 26, 2009 ^ Valve. Nintendo. I'm sure EA has at one time (they own half the industry anyway). Every studio has their moments in time. Really? I don't remember Valve or Nintendo making announcements that awesome in the span of under two months. They've both done some good stuff in the long run (Valve especially has a near-flawless record), but LucasArts is getting back into the action by being active again. Think about it, just one day before E3, who had the slightest hint that by August, we'll be playing two new Monkey Island games, classic LA games distributed via Steam and have official confirmation that TFU is coming for the PC (something that people have wanted since the beginning of time). Sure LA isn't firing bazookas in every direction, but they're doing something alright and it looks like they're on the right track for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cire992 Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 It isn't a game engine recreation a la ScummVM, but really an entire emulated OS and all of its dependencies.It's not about compatibility; there's plenty of workarounds for older games on newer systems today (DOSBox, ScummVM, to name a few). It's the fact that LucasArts is finally returning to its roots, after it essentially put the final nail in the coffin for adventure gaming after reducing and eventually canceling all production of advy games. That was huge slap in the face to its core fanbase, especially when it was games like Maniac Mansion and Monkey Island that put LucasArts on the map in the first place. It's good to see LucasArts even mentioning their existence, after doing nothing but Star Wars game for the past several years. Well put, sir. But can we trust LA to not transform their classics into the same rubbish shovelware that they've been pushing on us for the last few years? I don't want to sound ungrateful for Monkey Island and like endeavors, but I'd be pissed if they decided to do Lego X-Wing DS or something ridiculous like that. Sure LA isn't firing bazookas in every direction, but they're doing something alright and it looks like they're on the right track for sure. I hope so, I really do. But they need to do more to tickle my enthusiasm (though I am looking forward to getting my hands on Monkey Island, big time). Maybe keep an eye on some 3rd party studios, see what they're hiring for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HdVaderII Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 TFU for Mac. That's interesting. Right now I'm feeling two ways. 1. Good! Because LucasArts has decided to release a game for Mac. For me that's always a good thing, wether I buy it or not. 2. Meh. I wasn't thrilled with TFU when I played it on my friend's Wii, but I think it could be better for computer. Still, any announcement relating to X-Wing/Tie, JK(1-2), or Republic Commando and KotOR would have been FAR more welcome. Unfortunately I don't think LucasArts will ever do anything to revive the titles that made so many of us fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthParametric Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 I wasn't thrilled with TFU when I played it on my friend's WiiFor all intents and purposes the Wii version is a completely different game from the 360/PS3 version, which is what is getting ported to PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cire992 Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 I wonder if we'll be able to mod it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted July 27, 2009 Author Share Posted July 27, 2009 I wonder if we'll be able to mod it... Yes of course, we need our seven thousand DaRtH rEvAn mods with Episode V hilts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litofsky Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 I am teeming with joy. Truly, LucasArts has made my day- nay, my week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderQ Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 ^^Heh, what would SW games be without those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trench Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 ^^Nothing! Revan is awesome and he needs to be everywhere! I hope they make TFU4PC moddable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cire992 Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Yes of course, we need our seven thousand DaRtH rEvAn mods with Episode V hilts. Not to mention the obligatory weekly ultimate end-all-be-all saber blade color tweak mod (closer to the look of the films than evar b4!!) Seriously though, good mod communities are built around the best custom content. There will be lots of riff-raff and even some shenanigans but there will also be some really great must-haves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingerhs Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 well, some of you can say what you want, but i'm convinced that this is a step forward for LA. i mean, somebody had to introduce their staff to Crysis eventually. seriously, though, the bonus content is really what's got my motor turning (more so for the alternate story than anything). if they can even fix some of the flaws in the original for the PC version (and give it prettier graphics to boot), it'll be a step in the right direction. if they include mod tools, too.... then again, its best not to get me hopes up too high. this is LA we're talking about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Shake Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 then again, its best not to get me hopes up too high. this is LA we're talking about... This is crucial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthParametric Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 then again, its best not to get me hopes up too high. this is LA we're talking about...It's also a port being done by some unheard of dev. It's a fair chance that it will actually be worse than the console original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctrl Alt Del Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Okay, I'll be busy with my Spore expansions. Wake me up when the nightmere ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 It's also a port being done by some unheard of dev. It's a fair chance that it will actually be worse than the console original.It's the same dev that did KotOR on Mac, can't be that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrrtoken Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 It's the same dev that did KotOR on Mac, can't be that bad.Er, what? This is Aspyr Media we're talking about here. Most of their ports end up performing 50 to 75% of what their Windows counterparts usually are, and are usually extremely buggy, forcing Aspyr to constantly release an after-market patch for bugs alone. Don't believe me? See how long it took them to release a K1 patch for frame buffer and soft shadow effects, including Intel support. that was released in '07, for a '04 game mind you, and was considered a beta candidate. It's still in beta, and there's still a massive amount of bugs that people encounter. Feel free to look up info on their ports of NWN2, Civ4 and CoD4 for more proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cire992 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 seriously, though, the bonus content is really what's got my motor turning (more so for the alternate story than anything). if they can even fix some of the flaws in the original for the PC version (and give it prettier graphics to boot), it'll be a step in the right direction. if they include mod tools, too.... It will be fun to finally play the game. As far as the port goes, I'd like to reiterate what Darth said... it's being done by a third party studio. They'll take the most recent next-gen (360 or PS3) release candidate from LA and port that version of the game. They won't update the graphics unless they were contracted to do so and they won't fix legacy bugs (bugs which were present in the original console builds) unless they're causing instability (i.e. they added code which isn't working because of a legacy bug, or a legacy bug is a breach of standards on the new platforms' certifications). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 God, SE versions of X-Wing and TIE Fighter would be too awesome for words. Why not just use all the new models from the X-Wing Alliance upgrade project?. It definitely breaths new life into the game and makes it quite pretty, and allows you to actually have a Star Wars game that requires more than 4 buttons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 OK, that looks awesome. How come I didn't know about this already? Durrr... Thanks, Prime! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mav Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 fap, fap, fap??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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