Star Wars: The Force Unleashed II

[Endorenna]

One thing about the gameplay/simple level design from the last game.

 

In an interview (don't ask me which one, I don't remember >_<), I read that the devs had so much trouble getting the Havok/DMM/Euphoria to all work together that they didn't have as much time to work on the actual gameplay than they wanted to. Fortunately, for TFU 2, the DMM/Havok/Euphoria have already been worked out, so the devs can concentrate on improving on the level design and gameplay quality.

[Shem]

  DarthParametric said:

They do have him "meet" Luke in the DLC set on Hoth during ESB. They could always have a post-ROTJ encounter occur in the 3rd game (assuming they make one).

I realize that as I've played the Hoth level.

 

Let me rephrase that since I confused you. I would like light sided Starkiller meet Luke Skywalker AFTER the events of ROTJ.

[Cayal]

It certainly isn't Michael Bay influenced...it doesn't have any helicopters.

[Ztalker]

  Shem said:

I realize that as I've played the Hoth level.

 

Let me rephrase that since I confused you. I would like light sided Starkiller meet Luke Skywalker AFTER the events of ROTJ.

 

Can I join the club?

 

For me, the only reason how this game could work is if it's set +/- 10 years AFTER the first game, with the Empire fallen and all. In 10aby, Luke has bested Palpatine and is recruiting Jedi apprentices from all over the galaxy. Maybe a gladiator on a VERY remote world (no Imperial control? Unknown Regions?) could be helping him with this? And disappear before Katarn, Horn and Kypp start training?

[ZimmMaster]

I think I would have to play the Ultimate Sith Edition before I place any criticism on this game as it looks good to me.

 

*EDIT* The video in first post is unavailable for viewing.

[DarthParametric]

Replaced, but the GameTrailers link still works regardless.

 

I only put the YouTube video there because that's the only site you can embed from, unless one of the admins wants to add this code snippet - http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=212472 (while you're at it, there's also the YouTube HD snippet as well)

[JediAthos]

I won't condemn or praise this game before I see footage, and have more info. I did actually enjoy TFU the first time I played it. There was something satisfying about flinging my enemies off cliffs (or perhaps I'm just sadistic)

 

Anyway, as I said I'll be curious as to where they plan to take the story...I don't fear retcon simply because we've come to expect it from LA more than anything. So there's really no telling where they'll branch off to, but if they can make up for the failings that TFU did have then perhaps we can call it progress...maybe.

[GeneralPloKoon]

  Cayal said:

It certainly isn't Michael Bay influenced...it doesn't have any helicopters.

 

Yet.

[Spadille]

I liked this trailer, but as stated everywhere the game is discussed, I don't see how the hell Starkiller survuved (if it's not a prequel).

[Endorenna]

  Spadille said:

I liked this trailer, but as stated everywhere the game is discussed, I don't see how the hell Starkiller survuved (if it's not a prequel).

 

Since it had one of Juno's lines in it, I doubt it's a prequel.

 

I really hope they have a very, very good reason for him still bein' around...if they don't, it'll ruin the whole game.

 

Well, back to getting trophies for the first one! (goes back to PS3)

[DarthParametric]

Well they already had him surviving an impossible scenario in the first game when Vader tossed him out a window into space, so I'm sure the apparent death during the LS ending is only a minor speed bump.

[True_Avery]

  DarthParametric said:

Well they already had him surviving an impossible scenario in the first game when Vader tossed him out a window into space, so I'm sure the apparent death during the LS ending is only a minor speed bump.

As long as you exhale your breath, its quite possible to survive in space for up to about a minute. But yeah, the guy has proven to be hard to kill but it is one thing to be hard to kill and another for the two of them to flat out look at him and say "He is dead".

[stoffe]

  True_Avery said:

As long as you exhale your breath, its quite possible to survive in space for up to about a minute. But yeah, the guy has proven to be hard to kill but it is one thing to be hard to kill and another for the two of them to flat out look at him and say "He is dead".

 

I wouldn't be surprised if they used the standard Star Wars EU solution to when you want to bring back a previously killed character for more action/milking: Cloning. Starkiller 1 died, so let's bring Starkiller 2 out of storage and carry on.

[DarthParametric]

Ah of course. Good call stoffe. And seeing as they have apparently completely retconned all Karen Traviss's stuff about the Clones/Mandos, it wouldn't surprise me at all to see Kamino involved if that were the case.

[TKA-001]

  TA said:

As long as you exhale your breath, its quite possible to survive in space for up to about a minute.

I think the more prevalent problem is the fact that he had just been stabbed right through the gut with a lightsaber.

 

  stoffe said:

I wouldn't be surprised if they used the standard Star Wars EU solution to when you want to bring back a previously killed character for more action/milking: Cloning. Starkiller 1 died, so let's bring Starkiller 2 out of storage and carry on.

I'd actually be half-willing to accept that explanation. Palpatine used a lot of clones, after all (clones of himself, clone of Sate Pestage, clone of Jorus C'baoth, the clone armies, Bevel Lemelisk, etcetera). With that in mind, I'd be willing to buy the idea of Palpy cloning him for some reason.

[True_Avery]

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I wouldn't be surprised if they used the standard Star Wars EU solution to when you want to bring back a previously killed character for more action/milking: Cloning. Starkiller 1 died, so let's bring Starkiller 2 out of storage and carry on.

Cloning could definitely be it. For now, I call that he is another Scion and is alive because he is Unleashed or something. Seems fitting with the Michael Bayness of his character.

 

  TKA-001 said:

I think the more prevalent problem is the fact that he had just been stabbed right through the gut with a lightsaber.

Hahahaha, yeah that'd do it wouldn't it.

[Det. Bart Lasiter]

he is the t-1001

[Darth Avlectus]

Orly? What does that make Luke? John Connor?

 

Vader as T-101?

[Jeff]

I think LucasArts can come up with something better than cloning. Even if the first game wasn't that great I thought the story was above average for video games.

[JediAthos]

Perhaps Vader saves him somehow...kinda of like Bastila did with Revan? but then Revan was still barely alive and I believe it was stated that marek was dead.

[Mav]

Where the hell is my new X-Wing game, I've been waiting for a while now and Santa is tired of receiving the same damn list from me every year, hell it's not even a list, there's only one thing on there...

[DarthParametric]

  Jeff said:

I think LucasArts can come up with something better than cloning.

Don't give them too much credit. One word - midi-chlorians.

 

Besides, the more I think about it, the more it makes sense. Lucas obviously has a serious hardon for Clones at present, so I can see it spilling across into this either from his direct suggestion or, more likely, pandering by Blackman et al. And compared to some other potential explanations, cloning at least doesn't require too much suspension of disbelief.

[Shem]

  stoffe said:

I wouldn't be surprised if they used the standard Star Wars EU solution to when you want to bring back a previously killed character for more action/milking: Cloning. Starkiller 1 died, so let's bring Starkiller 2 out of storage and carry on.

I don't see that being what is going to happen. Starkiller being a clone project after Vader found him just doesn't seem right and I would willing to bet that won't happen here as that would turn off fans big time and ruin the game to a degree you could never repair. Hopefully LucasArts is smarter than that.

 

Starkiller remembers Juno for one if you refer to the trailer and his thoughts are way too complicated to someone who is "new".

 

I mean Starkiller, who was right next to the Emperor when the explosion happened just happened to die with no visible marks while the Emperor didn't get a scratch on him. That always threw me off.

 

Anyway, what if Starkiller somehow through the Force "faked" his death to save his life? His body is about to dumped out and before that happens, he wakes up and kills the stormtroopers escorting his body and then puts on a stormtrooper outfit on and then escapes the Death Star. There's an option.

 

  DarthParametric said:

Besides, the more I think about it, the more it makes sense. Lucas obviously has a serious hardon for Clones at present

Don't confuse stormtroopers for a main mega Force wielding character. That I know isn't Lucas' style. Especially if that was easy, it would have been done several times already and the Sith would rule the galaxy forever.

[Ztalker]

  Shem said:

Anyway, what if Starkiller somehow through the Force "faked" his death to save his life? His body is about to dumped out and before that happens, he wakes up and kills the stormtroopers escorting his body and then puts on a stormtrooper outfit on and then escapes the Death Star. There's an option.

 

This would explain why he isn't fighting for the Rebellion or looking for Juno. He maybe feels it's better if believed to be dead. Which, in turn, would explain what Yoda says with 'find yourself.' If, like Shem said, every Force user thinks you're dead...it has some consequences.

[Q]

  Mav said:

Where the hell is my new X-Wing game, I've been waiting for a while now and Santa is tired of receiving the same damn list from me every year, hell it's not even a list, there's only one thing on there...

I want the same thing, but they don't care.