Lieutenant_kettch Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 TIE interceptor rules all, 4 lasers, no shields, awesome, just awesome I changed the name of the thread to : Favorite snubfighter to avoid some confusion - coupes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shok_Tinoktin Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 a-wing fast=good that or TIE experimentals or the Ssi-Ruuk droid starfighters, I cant remember what theyre called Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagabond Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 You should have only included fighters actually observed in the movies. The EU fighters from the games are overpowered, especially the TIE Defender. For example, I don't see how anyone could say that it is inferrior to anything else on that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant_kettch Posted October 11, 2004 Author Share Posted October 11, 2004 i wanted to include the most popular fighters, and i know many people(myself included) who would rather have other ships than the Defender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagabond Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 The name of the topic is best snubfighter, while your question asks about the favorite - there is a distinct difference. My favorite is the Y-wing, but the best is without a doubt the TIE Defender - if you pump all the shields and tractor beam power into the engines, you end up with something that goes insanely fast, with decent armor, and killer weapons. There's nothing else that can stand up to that in terms of best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant_kettch Posted October 11, 2004 Author Share Posted October 11, 2004 the poll is for favorite, but i wanted the thread to allow room for a discussion on best The biggest problem with the Defender is it's large cross-section, which makes it a very very big target. In addition, all the Beam and Shield equipment create excess weight that allows for a disadvantage in atmospheric situations in cooperation with its large size. Also, it has a very poor laser alignment, two on top, two on bottom does not allow for a very merciful field of fire in reference to the ships controls. Whereas the Interceptor was two left two right. It is also smaller and more lightweight. All in all, shields are for losers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagabond Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 All I know is that if you fly in the TIE Defender in X-Wing Alliance, you can pretty much kick any other figher's butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant_kettch Posted October 11, 2004 Author Share Posted October 11, 2004 absolutely not true, as an interceptor, i can hold my own with most any othe ship, and, flying in either the minefield or asteroid field gives the Interceptor an advantage. Flying only in open space does not allow for a fair assessment. Would you only critique an AT-AT based on its performance on Endor alone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthBuzzard Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 Best? Tie Defender. Favourite? A-wing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant_kettch Posted October 11, 2004 Author Share Posted October 11, 2004 then put that in the poll, and why do you consider the defender the best? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawke Posted October 12, 2004 Share Posted October 12, 2004 Originally posted by rcsquirrel900 The biggest problem with the Defender is it's large cross-section, which makes it a very very big target. Incorrect, at the high speeds that combat ensues with the Defender, cross section is irrelevant, any of the TIE Fighters are guilty of the large cross section on a side shot, so is the X-wing Y-Wing, and B-Wing, head on is how you fight with a TIE. With the Defenders raw speed if a dogfight ensues you can just leave the fray, and then come back for head on attacks. Originally posted by rcsquirrel900 In addition, all the Beam and Shield equipment create excess weight that allows for a disadvantage in atmospheric situations in cooperation with its large size. It has no more of an atmospheric disadvantage than any other Fighter in Star Wars, ever hear of Repulsorlift technology (Anti-Gravity), weight becomes completely irrelevant with AG systems, Repulsorlift systems are in all Star Wars Fighters. Originally posted by rcsquirrel900 Also, it has a very poor laser alignment, two on top, two on bottom does not allow for a very merciful field of fire in reference to the ships controls. Whereas the Interceptor was two left two right. It is also smaller and more lightweight. The top wing houses 2 Ion Cannons, the 2 lower wings house the 4 laser cannons, and 2 Warhead launchers that fire from the bottom of the cockpit orb, just to round out the aresenal. The Defenders laser cannons have a similar firing profile to an X-Wing. They just fire from a lower firing angle. And lastly, the only other comprable fighter with that much raw firepower would be the B-Wing. And the only one to match its speed would be the A-Wing, or Tie Advanced. Originally posted by rcsquirrel900 All in all, shields are for losers We'll be sure to put that as your epitath on your headstone in the New Republic or Imperial Cemetary on Coruscant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shok_Tinoktin Posted October 12, 2004 Share Posted October 12, 2004 Originally posted by RedHawke We'll be sure to put that as your epitath on your headstone in the New Republic or Imperial Cemetary on Coruscant. Trust me, RC would rather have "All in all, sheilds are for losers" on his epitath, than actually use sheilds. (I can tell you first hand) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted October 12, 2004 Share Posted October 12, 2004 TIE Defender!!!! TIE Fighter the game kicked so much ass....*basks in nostalgia* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shok_Tinoktin Posted October 12, 2004 Share Posted October 12, 2004 Originally posted by Rogue15 TIE Fighter the game kicked so much ass....*basks in nostalgia* Can't argue with that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith 8 Posted October 12, 2004 Share Posted October 12, 2004 .... where is the option none of the above or the option: OTHER! my all time favorite is the N-1 Nubian Starfighter. the beauty... the style... it just glides.. and my present date fighter: The Dune Lizard Medium Hutt fighter (for JTL only ) Wraith 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivy Posted October 12, 2004 Share Posted October 12, 2004 i like the a-wing best, for it's speed and manoeuvrability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant_kettch Posted October 12, 2004 Author Share Posted October 12, 2004 In my experience in a defender, the best offensive weapon combination is two ions linked with two lasers, with does not provide a good firing line. and yes, someone please put that on my epitath Originally posted by RedHawke Incorrect, at the high speeds that combat ensues with the Defender, cross section is irrelevant, any of the TIE Fighters are guilty of the large cross section on a side shot, so is the X-wing Y-Wing, and B-Wing, head on is how you fight with a TIE. With the Defenders raw speed if a dogfight ensues you can just leave the fray, and then come back for head on attacks. It has no more of an atmospheric disadvantage than any other Fighter in Star Wars, ever hear of Repulsorlift technology (Anti-Gravity), weight becomes completely irrelevant with AG systems, Repulsorlift systems are in all Star Wars Fighters. And lastly, the only other comprable fighter with that much raw firepower would be the B-Wing. And the only one to match its speed would be the A-Wing, or Tie Advanced. We'll be sure to put that as your epitath on your headstone in the New Republic or Imperial Cemetary on Coruscant. i was not referring the weight as a gravitational disadvantage, i was speaking of the additional force a heavier object has at an equal speed, which would cause a loss of maneuverability and i was speaking of the frontal cross-section, where the advanced has the advantage, and you don't fight head on with a TIE, you weedle away with our better vacuum maneuverability until you can take them out, or slash and run Pleas avoid double posting, use the edit button instead. - coupes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shok_Tinoktin Posted October 12, 2004 Share Posted October 12, 2004 Originally posted by rcsquirrel900 and i was speaking of the frontal cross-section, where the advanced has the advantage, and you don't fight head on with a TIE, you weedle away with our better vacuum maneuverability until you can take them out, or slash and run If you dont fight head-to-head, than how is the frontal cross-section a disadvantage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primalunderdog Posted October 12, 2004 Share Posted October 12, 2004 I was reading a book and a pirate gang made ships from TIE and the republic wing design.My favorite was the TIE Y-wing.A TIE cockpit,mounted between 2 Y-wing engines.Other than that mine is the defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shok_Tinoktin Posted October 12, 2004 Share Posted October 12, 2004 Originally posted by primalunderdog I was reading a book and a pirate gang made ships from TIE and the republic wing design.My favorite was the TIE Y-wing.A TIE cockpit,mounted between 2 Y-wing engines.Other than that mine is the defender. Your favorite is an ugly! And of all the uglies, the TIE/Y-Wing hybrid. lol. That cracks me up. The ultimate weapon. It combines the speed and agility of a Y-Wing, with the weapons and shields of a TIE. btw, TIE-Defenders are awesome (best Imperial starfighter). I also like the Missile Boat when it comes to Imperial fighters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupes. Posted October 12, 2004 Share Posted October 12, 2004 Shok_Tinoktin, tastes are hardly a debatable matter so don't mock other's choices. Saying it's ugly is only your opinion, what's ugly to you might look nice for someone else and vice versa. I personally like the A-wing also, I like the hull shape and the speed and manuverability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shok_Tinoktin Posted October 12, 2004 Share Posted October 12, 2004 Originally posted by .:CoupeS:. Shok_Tinoktin, tastes are hardly a debatable matter so don't mock other's choices. Saying it's ugly is only your opinion, what's ugly to you might look nice for someone else and vice versa. I personally like the A-wing also, I like the hull shape and the speed and manuverability. I'm sorry, it sounded worse than I intended it to. An ugly is a combination of pieces of various ships that are patched together. I was not saying that it was ugly, I was saying it was an ugly. I should not have assumed that everyone knew that. I was not attempting to insult his opinion, I was just saying that I found it funny. btw, good pick with the A-wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOutrider Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 X-wing Movement:Fast Lasers:4 Nice sleek look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawke Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 Originally posted by Shok_Tinoktin If you dont fight head-to-head, than how is the frontal cross-section a disadvantage? Exactly! I don't think rcsquirrel900 has done much fighter combat, outside of the one Star Wars game he seems to be referring to, you couldn't link lasers and ions in the LA X-wing and the TIE Fighter series of simulators, or has he studied any actual fighter tactics, if he had of, he would realise in a second that his arguments about the subject aren't very valid... oh well... Back on topic: Flying for the Empire: TIE Defender Flying for the Rebellion: A-Wing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagabond Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 Just a brief off-topic comment: I have to defend Shok_Tinoktin on his usage of the word "ugly". In the expanded universe, the term "ugly" does refer to a spacecraft pieced together from the various parts of other spacecraft. So, while his usage of "ugly" was correct and not intentionally offensive in describing primalunderdog's favorite snub fighter, it is easily understandable how his comment could be misinterpreted as an insult. And now back to our regularly scheduled programming... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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