stingerhs Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 ATI finally puts out a card that might be worth your $500+ dollars (if you want the latest and greatest, that is). the Radeon X1900 XTX finally puts ATI comfortably ahead of the GeForce 7800 GTX, and has quite a bit of potential. with a very high 'WTF??' factor, the new Radeon has 48 pixel pipes. more info here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 But we still aren't even taking advantage of the 16 pipelines current cards have are we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 But we still aren't even taking advantage of the 16 pipelines current cards have are we? Not even close to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChAiNz.2da Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Unfortunately, we did not have a 512MB GeForce 7800 GTX duo available for SLI testing (we had to use its previous flagship GPU, the 256MB GeForce 7800 GTX, instead). I'll wait for more updated benchmarks Considering the 256mb 7800 GTX wasn't way behind.. I'd like to see the benchmarks actually compare the "equivalent" competition... rather than the card with half the vid memory... I like ATI.. but I'll admit, I'm biased, I'm an nVidia fan-boy through & through Still, even I can admit.. this card kicks some major arse.. and has definitley sucked the wind out of nVidia's sails.. Great article man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 I'll wait for more updated benchmarks Considering the 256mb 7800 GTX wasn't way behind.. I'd like to see the benchmarks actually compare the "equivalent" competition... rather than the card with half the vid memory... I like ATI.. but I'll admit, I'm biased, I'm an Nvidia fan-boy through & through Still, even I can admit.. this card kicks some major arse.. and has definitley sucked the wind out of Nvidia's sails.. Great article man! The 512 is on par with the 1900's performance, quality and performance-wise. But if you unlock all 24 pipelines (which is easily done with an nVidia card) it outperforms it by roughly 5-10 FPS in F.E.A.R (4xFSAA, 16xAN, Max. settings, 1600x1200). Mine's OC'd a lot and it stomps the snot out the X1900. The only thing different on my system is that when I switched out my 4 Gb of DDR-400 to swap it with my old 512 sticks, my old ones were DDR-333. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Char Ell Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 I'm sure we all knew that ATI wasn't going to take nVidia's announcement and immediate availability of the GeForce 7800 GTX lying down. It did take them a while to offer up some competition though. I really need to bone up on my video card knowledge so I can make more sense out of this stuff. Mousing over the picture comparisons in the article, I didn't see that much difference between the nVidia and ATI cards. As far as I'm concerned it's good to have these two companies slapping each other off the top of the hill because the competition will only help graphics rendering improve. But... since I've already invested in one, all I'm really interested in knowing at this point is when the price for the 7800 GTX will start dropping so I can go SLI. Yeah, baby!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Devon Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Good grief. I just got a 7800 during christmas, and it's been outdated already. Another new card with mind-blowing and previously unheard of performance... Which is exactly what they'll say about another card a few months from now, rendering this one obsolete, just like last time. I don't think that there's much of a difference between the cards. Sure, the X1900 has slightly better anti-aliasing and lighting effects, but is that really worth another couple hundred dollars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 No. The 7800 GTX won't even be fully taken advantage of for quite a few years. As it is the only engine currently in developement that'll even be close is the new Unreal engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 ...Or the Jupiter Ex engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth333 Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Meh! Unless yo're a graphic maniac, it's overkill and overpriced for simple gaming at this time IMHO. I can't believe graphic cards have become the most expensive component in a system...I'm not the kind of person who really worries about how realistic the shadows or the water looks. For me, there are much more important things in life than graphics. I'll keep my X850XT PE card (my reseller ran out of stock and gave me a PE instead of the regular edition ) until I start to get choppy graphics at low-medium settings or until I feel the need to change my processor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 ^^^^ CPU's can run into the thousands of dollars though. When Itanium2's came out some retaliers were selling the top-of-the-line versions of them for $5000+ USD, and Intel Pentium EE's (the Pentium 4 EE's and Pentium D 9xx EE's) cost $1000+ USD. The prices for both are ridiculous though, especially if these things cost a fraction of what they sell for in manufacturing costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingerhs Posted January 25, 2006 Author Share Posted January 25, 2006 and don't just limit the overpricing to just Intel. AMD's processors are a bit too pricey for my tastes at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montnoir Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 I still play my games at 800x600. Doom 3 Ultra Quality setting = smooth sailing! FarCry all settings on max = smooth sailing! Riddick Escape from Butcher Bay all settings on max = smooth sailing Battlefront 2 all settings on max = porridge! All settings on low = same porridge! Methinks there's something wrong with it... Call of Duty 2 all settings on max = smooth sailing! The Empire at War demo all settings on max = smooth sailing! Well those are all the graphics hogs I can think of for the moment and I run them on full with my 2 year old Ati 9600 128MB. Oh yeah... remembered. The FEAR demo - it somewhat stutters at times with the ULTRA texture setting, but runs smooth on HIGH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Nice read, sounds like a killer card, but why would you waste your money on it now when it can't even be fully taken advantage of, when you can wait for a much lower price and games that will actually use those high specs? And I like nVidia anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Found a more 'official' benchmark: http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/01/24/ati_radeon_x1900_heats_up_with_48_pixel_pipelines/page13.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevanA4 Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Nice read, sounds like a killer card, but why would you waste your money on it now when it can't even be fully taken advantage of, when you can wait for a much lower price and games that will actually use those high specs? And I like nVidia anyways yeah no game really uses the nvidia 7800 gtx to its fullest either though and I'll stick with nvidia as thier drivers don't have issues as is the case with ATI some times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Actually, they do have issues sometimes. Not as often as ATi, but sometimes. So yeah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDJOHNNYMIKE Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 @montnoir, where you playing on a ranked server? I haven't played in a while, but I had 56K and played standard serves "smooth sailing" and ranked "porridge", of course it might have improved since summer;) Maybe it will be worth buying next year (after a new cpu and sound card $$$$$$) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 My brother is currently working with a $11,000 video card for developing a next gen projector with and the card company just now got it to where up to 8 of it's pipe lines can work simultaniously without error, which is as high as any card company has gotten to my knowledge so It doesn't sound like it's really going to be worth getting this killer ATi card for maybe even a few years when it's power can actually be taken advantage of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingerhs Posted January 27, 2006 Author Share Posted January 27, 2006 well, if you read in the article, by having so many pixel pipes, the card is able to utilize Shader 3.0, HDR lighting, and Anti-Aliasing simultaneously which is something that both that recent video cards haven't been able to do. that's why in the comparison screenshots, you'll notice that the objects in the distance have a much smoother look to them. its because the card is performing all of those calculations at one time. that is the advantage of this new ATI card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 I'm not sure why I looked at this thread again, however, I should point out that the X1900's have 16 pixel pipelines, just like the previous X1K cards he X1900 XTX comes with 16 pixel pipelines and an astounding (and baffling) 48 pixel shader processors. It also has a core that's clocked at 650MHz and 512MB of GDDR3 RAM clocked at 1.55GHz. All these numbers boil down to a card that's very fast, in specific ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 lolz...that shyte's all smoke'n'mirrors'n'marketing. Since when can current compys running standard OSs able to support that type of hardware architecture. Its not like you can go out, buy the 1337 card, pop it in your pc and have 1337 grafx... Not to mention software that utilises it to its full capacity. Read what Rhett said about companies that work to build dedicated system architectures that cant even maximise current capacities. But of course, theres always a sucker with $$$ who wants the "biggest and fastest", even though a cheaper card does a highly comparable job within the constraints of current machine hardware, system software and programs(games) mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 I have 1337 grafx though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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