Kelborn Ordo Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 what was Revan canicaly a guardian, counslar, or a sentinal i think he is a sentinal, because he made a droid, very good at persuading people and was a master at both using the force and lightsaber combat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkonium Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Well, judging by the fact that he wields a blue lightsaber in the comic, my guess is that he's canonically a Jedi Guardian, since that's the blade colour attributed to that class ingame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbx_Inthusiast Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 Well this is the wrong place to put this in the first place. But I'd think a Guardian. He was one of the best lightsaber duellists of that time and he beat Malak at his own game with a lightsaber no doubt. You didn't see him throwing a wrench at him, unlocking him to death or killing him with a Force Wave did you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawke Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 Moving to Republic Newsfeed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Varen Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 I think Consular, because he is strong in the Force and Jedi Consular is my favourite Class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shem Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 In my game, I always have Revan use a blue lightsaber and be a Jedi Consular. I'm leaning towards Revan being a Consular by a hair over being a Guardian, only because he/she was very strong in the Force. You can be a good saber duelist as a Consular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC-1162 Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 Yes, but you don't have as many feats. I'd say he's a Guardian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimic666 Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 I'd say Guardian because he was "eager to learn" as in feats/powers Guardian gets faster feat progression, but slower skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiEND_138 Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 Agrees with Shem & Pottsie... Consular Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Skywalker Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 Jedi Guardian cuz he seems like one and it's my favorite class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Char Ell Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 I saw this thread and got a distinct sense of déjà vu. Feel free to review the What Jedi Class should Revan really be? thread for mine and other members past arguments on this subject and a surprise end (at least for me it was). FWIW I don't really care anymore. IMO KotOR's three different character classes were created to stay true to D&D RP rules and the different classes affects gameplay, not the story. So play the PC using whatever class you want. Your Revan is uniquely yours. From my perspective there is no specific class that Revan should be in canon because the KotOR's three Jedi classes don't exist anywhere in the SW universe except the KotOR game series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC-1162 Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 actually, Guardians and Consulars do exist in the PT. Qui Gon was a Consular, seeing how much he used the Force to influence others and also he got pwned by a sith. no enough feats. but padawan Obi knocked off maul and anakin knocked off dooku, so theyre both guardians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawke Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 actually, Guardians and Consulars do exist in the PT. Qui Gon was a Consular, seeing how much he used the Force to influence others and also he got pwned by a sith. no enough feats. but padawan Obi knocked off maul and anakin knocked off dooku, so theyre both guardians In D20 RPG terms you are be correct, but personally I see Qui-Gon as a Jedi Master, his title, as in the Star Wars D6 system by West End Games the whole class system was non-existant, you had templates/titles. The D20 RPG is simply trying to emulate the 'feel' of the Star Wars Movies by using their D20 rules system, not the other way around. Lastly, in a contest between equal leveled and equipped Guardians and Consulars, the fight is slightly in the Consulars favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC-1162 Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 im not sure i agree, because Maul was a Sith Apprentice and like you said, Qui Gon was a Master. And the way Maul fought, I thought he was a Guardian, or whatever the Sith equivalent is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lantzen Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 Couselor or Sentinel, when you get the questions about what class you shoul get, all the one for guardian is just brute force, and i think Revan was to smart for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Char Ell Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 actually, Guardians and Consulars do exist in the PT. Please forgive my ignorance but what does PT stand for? Where else in SW literature or other media are the terms Jedi Consular, Jedi Guardian, and Jedi Sentinel used, besides the KotOR games? Perhaps these classes exist in SW pen-and-paper RPG's? If they do then that would make sense to me as I believe KotOR and the SW RPG's are based on the same rules system. I'm sure RedHawke will correct me if I'm wrong. However after seeing all six SW movies, reading a handful of SW novels, and playing the KotOR and JK series of video games I've never seen or heard a reference to Jedi classes outside of the KotOR games. So admittedly I'm no SW expert but somebody please inform me if I'm wrong and Jedi classes are used in SW media besides SW RPG's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaelastraz Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 The classes are only to make the game replayable. And to stick to the basic: Fighter-Mage-Hybrid D&D rule I guess. The stronger a Jedi is in the force, the stronger is his ligthsaber fighting. So, Characters can't be put into the classes. Except for the attidude. Does someone think and calculate any step, work indirectly, using others? -> Consular for instance. Then I'd say Revan is a Jedi Guardian, because he doesn't back off from dangers, and always chose to fight his enemies directly. But he does calculate his moves and steps tho.. hm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawke Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 im not sure i agree, because Maul was a Sith Apprentice and like you said, Qui Gon was a Master. And the way Maul fought, I thought he was a Guardian, or whatever the Sith equivalent is. Actually RC, my description was from another game system. Just the D6 Rules explination, as D20 is all messed up because of its D&D Roots and its rigid and inflexible class system. Please forgive my ignorance but what does PT stand for? Prequel Trilogy... Where else in SW literature or other media are the terms Jedi Consular, Jedi Guardian, and Jedi Sentinel used, besides the KotOR games? Perhaps these classes exist in SW pen-and-paper RPG's? If they do then that would make sense to me as I believe KotOR and the SW RPG's are based on the same rules system. I'm sure RedHawke will correct me if I'm wrong. However after seeing all six SW movies, reading a handful of SW novels, and playing the KotOR and JK series of video games I've never seen or heard a reference to Jedi classes outside of the KotOR games. So admittedly I'm no SW expert but somebody please inform me if I'm wrong and Jedi classes are used in SW media besides SW RPG's. No where actually, it is strictly the realm of the WotC Star Wars D20 RPG system and the KotOR series is based off of said RPG system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Foley Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 Jedi Consular, because Revan kicked more ass than any Sith ever ('cept for Vader, of course), and the two other classes are weeeaaaaak.[/promoting favorite class] Qui Gon was a Consular, seeing how much he used the Force to influence others and also he got pwned by a sith. no enough feats. but padawan Obi knocked off maul and anakin knocked off dooku, so theyre both guardians First of all, I don't think for even a second that those classes were in the Prequel Trilogy. Secondly- Yuck! Obi-Wan is no Guardian! If I had to stick people to classes, Obi-Wan was a Jedi Master. But you can't stick people in the movies to classes, because, just look at the Jedi- You can't say that Anakin was a Guardian, because he was stronger in the Force than many many Jedi- Same goes for Obi-Wan. The class system doesn't work because some Jedi, like Anakin and Obi-Wan, are strong in both physical and Force aspects of being a Jedi- and excel at them both, unlike the "balanced" Sentinal. lord Foley, I have combined your Double Posts. Please refrain from Double Posting, that is having multiple posts in a row, while it is alright to do in some rare instances, here it isn't. Use the 'edit this' post feature to add any new content to your previous posts, thanks. -RH Sorry buddy! -Foley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reven0123 Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 i think he was a jedi master as he was both a master of saber combat and force techniques although i voted for jedi gurdian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC-1162 Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 First of all, I don't think for even a second that those classes were in the Prequel Trilogy. Secondly- Yuck! Obi-Wan is no Guardian! If I had to stick people to classes, Obi-Wan was a Jedi Master. But you can't stick people in the movies to classes, because, just look at the Jedi- You can't say that Anakin was a Guardian, because he was stronger in the Force than many many Jedi- Same goes for Obi-Wan. The class system doesn't work because some Jedi, like Anakin and Obi-Wan, are strong in both physical and Force aspects of being a Jedi- and excel at them both, unlike the "balanced" Sentinal. i thought there were only blue and green sabers flashing around in the PT? (other than Mace of course). but you could argue that they do not necessarily denote class, so ill give you that, but i think there were those classes in the PT but come on, Obi Wan vs Anakin was one of the greatest duels ever. and when Anakin was also LS, he and Obi wan took out a sith each in a spectacular way. any class other than a guardian would have been screwed royally. qui gon was clearly a Jedi Master (prestige class of consular, if im not mistaken) because he focused more on using the Force and got pwned, proving my point. though, Obi Wan killed the same Sith and wasnt quite a Knight at the time, so he was clearly more skilled in swordfighting, same goes for anakin. he got defeated by dooku as an apprentice, but killed Dooku as a knight, where dooku was a Sith Knight (or whatever) so, clearly, Obi and Anakin were Guardians who were also strong in the Force Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Revan. Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Jedi Consular, because Revan kicked more ass than any Sith ever ('cept for Vader, of course), and the two other classes are weeeaaaaak.[/promoting favorite class] First of all, I don't think for even a second that those classes were in the Prequel Trilogy. Secondly- Yuck! Obi-Wan is no Guardian! If I had to stick people to classes, Obi-Wan was a Jedi Master. But you can't stick people in the movies to classes, because, just look at the Jedi- You can't say that Anakin was a Guardian, because he was stronger in the Force than many many Jedi- Same goes for Obi-Wan. The class system doesn't work because some Jedi, like Anakin and Obi-Wan, are strong in both physical and Force aspects of being a Jedi- and excel at them both, unlike the "balanced" Sentinal. lord Foley, I have combined your Double Posts. Please refrain from Double Posting, that is having multiple posts in a row, while it is alright to do in some rare instances, here it isn't. Use the 'edit this' post feature to add any new content to your previous posts, thanks. -RH i think he was a sentinel since he was both strong with his lightsaber and also very powerful in the force since he was able to find the star forge that not even the jedi masters could find, also someone said that he was a jedi master but he was just a padawan he was the apprentice of many masters in the jedi order (its says it in the game)... ...Also Foley i think your wrong, I think that Vader was not even half what Revan was.. unlike Vader Revan actually accomplished his goals, for example he went looking for the star maps, found the Star Forge and then used the Star Forge to make an immense fleat of ships and with it he almost destroyed the Jedi Order and made the Republic nothing... Now Vader all he could do was create this Death Star that didnt even have a chance to use it because Luke came along and destroyed it... and then Luke kills him... unlike Revan which doesnt get killed, he just leaves and noone knows what happened to him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjpb3 Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 I gave my vote to Guardian because it is unequivocally my favorite class. And because in my world, my Revan is an exceptional lightsaberist who relies more on her lightsaber than her force powers. Plus, I love force jumping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clone L68362 Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 I saw this thread and got a distinct sense of déjà vu. Feel free to review the What Jedi Class should Revan really be? thread for mine and other members past arguments on this subject and a surprise end (at least for me it was). You know, if you look at the files for lots of characters, like Jordo or Malare, who are just messengers it says even their class are things like Jedi Guardian. Vandar is shown to be a level one Jedi Guardian. So why would the file for Revan mean anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mace MacLeod Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 Guardian. Revan defeated the Mandalorians in open combat, wields a blue saber, and encouraged nothing but mindless aggression in his apprentice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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