Arátoeldar Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 The review of Fallout 3 on The Escapist says there's somewhere around 500 different endings! Is this true? I haven't played the first two Fallouts. Do you think I'd like Fallout 3 more if I played it first or waited till after playing the first two? A a large majority of those endings are based on what you look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aash Li Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 From whats being said on Bethesda F3 forums, the 200 endings bit is a lie. Theres only like 3 or 4 varied endings. So they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 If anyone's having problems with LIVE or just wants to improve performance and how fast the game will load, renaming Fallout3.exe.cat to something else will cause the game to skip loading the LIVE dll. edit: just finished the game and was completely meh'd by the ending i got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth333 Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 It's sold out! It's sold out! It's sold out! And I got stuck in traffic for one hour on my way back home! btw, is it closer to Oblivion or the previous Fallout games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk102 Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 A tough question to answer. I just started playing two days ago. To me, it "feels" more like Fallout than Oblivion. Besides the obvious wasteland setting, the Pip Boy and S.P.E.C.I.A.L. system are familiar aspects to its predecessors. The real-time combat and camera angle system much more akin to Oblivion, though the optional V.A.T.S. targeting system does use some of the better aspects of the old Fallout system. The dialog system seems to combine the best of both games using skill-based and perk-based dialog options combined with full voice-overs. The jibber-jabber dialog of NPCs in the background seems to have a better repertoire than I remember Oblivion having. So far I'd say Fallout 3 has its own flavor distinct from F1/F2 and Oblivion. If you liked the earlier Fallouts and Oblivion, I think it's safe to assume you'll enjoy the game play of Fallout 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I have the first two Fallouts but have yet to play them. Play them first before trying to tackle 3 or will I be able to follow along without the entire backstory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk102 Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 As far as I can tell, you can play each of the Fallouts separately without missing much. Sure there will be references that will have deeper meaning if you played the earlier game(s), but nothing to stop you from enjoying the individual games on their own. F3 takes place on the east coat while F1 and F2 take place on the west coast, very near yours truly as a matter of fact. You can get the gist of the backstory from wikipedia and also, for those who don't have F1 or F2, you can play them for free by signing up with Gametap. Since you're an old fogie like me, I have confidence you'll enjoy the charm of the old isometric POV and dialogs, so feel free to play in any order you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Fallout 3 is set 300 years after the original too iirc and there's plenty of ways to find out about the setting and what led up to what's happening outside of Vault 101 without playing the other 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrrtoken Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Correction: Only Fallout 1 is entirely free. Fallout 2 requires a pesky subscription. If you want to go into further details about the series, there's also a Fallout Wiki. The only thing that is tempting me to buy F3 is, well, mods. There's quite a few out already, and many of them try to inject the original Fallout "feel" into F3. However, the only thing stopping from getting F3 is that it's been in the hands of Bethesda, so I'm expecting cheese galore with the voice acting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watcher07 Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 The first two fallouts take place on the west coast, Fallout 3 takes place on the east coast and quite a bit of time has passed as well, so anything from the first two that you need to know is told to you in Fallout 3. Playing the first two will get you "into" the world of Fallout, which is honestly a really well put together, amazing world. So you should seek the experience from the first two, but don't let not having played them keep you from just firing up 3. I do highly recommend playing Fallout 1 before 2 though as they do tie together. About Fallout 3 though... I may be the odd man out, but I really didn't think Oblivion was so amazing. It had some good graphics, and the size of the world was a pretty big wow factor for me, but once I started getting my own houses, killing things, etc., etc. I just had a hard time holding onto the core storyline. It was like the immensity of the world kept dragging me from it. Fallout 3 doesn't quite play out that way for me, which is why I love it. Fallout 3's main quest is pretty straightforward, its all about your dad. I won't throw in any spoilers here, so don't worry. The quest takes you to several places where you learn about more quests and options that can help you become a better wastelander. The really nice thing is that despite the fact you might get sidetracked trying to help some slaves rebuild lincoln's memorial or you're debating blowing up that nuke the town was built around, many times the dialogue with people will lead you back to the main quest, fortunately not in an annoying way. The world is truly free roam. If you run afoul of a couple deathclaws cause you went into the wrong cave, or an enclave patrol stumbles across you, well needless to say if you're not ready for it, it won't take long for you to find out. The world moves beyond you, there are roaming patrols, creatures move from area to area, its really pretty dynamic. The game does have a linearity to it though that will be hard to escape. For instance in DC, I felt many times like the rubble in my way should have been easily scaleable, but the designers felt otherwise and I was forced into one of the very many subway systems to get to the next area I wanted to go to, which leads to some frustration sometimes. Also, there are occasions in combat where things can get pretty hot and heavy, and the game really shines there, cars exploding around you, blood flying on your screen, sounds are dulled from the shockwave and you're trying to gun down that super mutie with a gatling gun. Very exciting. The dialogue was really well written and the actors mentioned above did a great job, particularly McDowell. The side quests are excellent as well, very well thought out for the Fallout world though occasionally a bit predictable, which fortunately the game uses for some comedic moments. A radio dish has been broken and ironically another dish can be found, you get pegged to go get it, and the dialogue reflects that irony well with humour about "Let me guess, you want me to get that for you?" The game achieves a realism through dialogue because your character can be any number of different personalities. Anyway, there are some bugs in the game that are pretty hard to get around, but there is a thread on the bethsoft forums that is the official thread for fixing game breaking bugs as best we can, many solutions for people have been found there if they're having problems. I personally never really hit any problems that were not my own comps fault, but thats just me. I've played the game from start to finish, and like some others, felt the ending was forced on me, and am somewhat disappointed by it, but such is life, it was still half decent and I'm working on my next playthrough to experience a different ending. This game isn't to be missed though, they obviously put a lot of hard work into it. The overall feeling is that they created this with alot of care and thought as well as respect for the first two games and made it into something new, which I'm ok with. Definitely check it out though as its an experience not to be missed. -Watcher07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk102 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Zero Punctuation's take on Fallout 3. Thanks Achilles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth333 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Zero Punctuation's take on Fallout 3. Thanks Achilles! That was hilarious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 From what I've heard, this game actually decent as long as you forget that it's supposed to be a Fallout game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Char Ell Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Bethesda has announced forthcoming downloadable content for Fallout 3 for both Xbox 360 and PC versions. First up however is the PC exclusive game editor that will allow Fallout 3 players to create their own quests and content. Called the G.E.C.K., short for Garden of Eden Creation Kit, PC gamers will be able to create new creatures, weapons, quests, etc. sometime in December. Then starting in January, both PC and Xbox 360 players will get new content: Operation Anchorage, followed by The Pit in February, and Broken Steel in March. While the new editor will be a free download it's not real clear to me that the in-game content will be free downloads. My guess is they won't be but will likely need to be purchased via Games for Windows Live or Xbox Live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arátoeldar Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 G.E.C.K. is out Make sure you install G.E.C.K. to the same folder as the game not a sub folder. Fallout 3 High Definition Texture Pack for those of you that can run the game at its' highest setting. It weighs in at ~400MB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth333 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 G.E.C.K. is out Make sure you install G.E.C.K. to the same folder as the game not a sub folder. Thanks, that's good news! now I only have to find some time to play the game... I am still to find my virtual "dad" Fallout 3 High Definition Texture Pack for those of you that can run the game at its' highest setting. It weighs in at ~400MB.I suppose a performance hit is to be expected given that the new textures are in 2048x2048...personally, I didn't tried the pack but I am not sure that the new textures are really an improvement (it was certainly a lot of work for the modder though ). From the screenies published here (in French but you don't need to understand to see the screenshots) tiling seems more visible to me and I can't say that I am very fond of all those rocks...to each its own I guess...to me pure "photo-realistic" textures != automatical improvement . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 OK so I just got through my first run of Fallout 3. About the ending.... what the hell? I mean.... what the hell? Even Oblivion's ending was better then that and Oblivion's ending was crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimartin Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 OK so I just got through my first run of Fallout 3. About the ending.... what the hell? I mean.... what the hell? Even Oblivion's ending was better then that and Oblivion's ending was crap. I thought the same thing my first time through. Thought it was going to be like Oblivion where I could continue on my merry way, but… I've competed 4 times through now on the 360 and I’m now on my first play through with the PC version of Fallout 3. Still need to go through at least twice on the 360 to get the evil, neutral and the slave quest achievements. FWIW I actually like Fallout 3’s ending now, well at least the good ending (as I have not seen the others). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Lion54 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 OK so I just got through my first run of Fallout 3. About the ending.... what the hell? I mean.... what the hell? Even Oblivion's ending was better then that and Oblivion's ending was crap. Yea, that's really my only problem with the game. The ending is horrible. The rest of the game was fun, but then you hit the brick wall of the ending. Which, speaking of brick walls, is the other problem with the ending. It felt too abrupt, like there should be more game. On my first playthrough, I decided to work on the main quest some more, then go back and do some more of Moira's stuff, but then BAM! The end. I kind of had a feeling when Sarah Lyons said "Are you ready, we won't be coming back for a while," or whatever her exact line was, but I was in disbelief that I really was at the ending that soon... the lead up wasn't natural. So, my second playthrough, I just went to Megaton and talked to Moriarty. Then, I just went and explored, avoiding all the places and people I knew would move the story along until I was ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk102 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 I wanted more of the Fallout/Fallout 2 epilogue narration, recapping how my various actions affected others in various areas of the game and what became of them. Instead there was just a couple variations on the main quest's outcome. I mean, that let me down way more than the ending of the main quest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimartin Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 My major gripe was Dogmeat kept going to that great kennel in the sky. So I cured that by getting the PC version, then cheating to make him essential. It was also interesting to find out where Walter kept disappearing to. First I found him dead, so I resurrected him then he disappeared off the map with half the citizen of Megaton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Buttercrust Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Yeah, opinions is a bitch, aint they ? @Lance: Well like i said, Fallout 2 atleast top my list of best games i played, and i played all those you listed there. And i think all the games you listed also is very good, Kotor, PS:T, BG2 are atleast very high up on my same list. What are you doing making a list of all you're favorite games when you can be playing them? Oh, and I love Fallout 3, LOVE it, Kotor 1 and 2, psychonauts, jedi academy, half life 2, portal, are crushed under Fallout's Epicness. Only real bug I found was when I disabled the bomb, and found Jericho dead right next to it on the opposite side I was on. I proceeded to yell "JERICHO, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!" then spent like 5 minutes trying to put him on a couch nearby insisting that "He must be a comfortable corpse!" then died getting shot down by the other people 'cause some dude sat on jericho's death couch, and jericho came back and everything was wonderful. I kinda wonder if he killed himself because he wanted to blow up and I took that away, so he shot himself I'm getting this for PC, mark my words, MARK THEM GOOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Kotor 1 and 2, psychonauts, jedi academy, half life 2, portal, are crushed under Fallout's Epicness. You have sinned against both God and man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Buttercrust Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 You have sinned against both God and man. It's all worth it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediAthos Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 I'm pretty obsessed with this game myself at the moment. I'm level 18 and have Star Paladin Cross as my follower...she's a badass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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