Israel Caught Spying on America

[SilentScope001]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080422/ts_nm/usa_israel_spy_secret_dc

 

Listen, I don't want to rant. I understand about Israel, I understand that it is facing many enemies. Israel has the right to exist, alright?

 

But if the article is proven correct, all I want to know is why in the world did the Israeli government spy on the US. It's almost absurd. I would complain if I found out CIA Agents are busy stealing nuclear secrets from France.

[Jae Onasi]

Spying on the US is the best way to get inside information about what the US is going to do in Israel or with Israel's enemies.

 

I think the Mossad just likes knowing anything about anyone, too.

[JCarter426]

Nice to know who America's allies are these days.

[Corinthian]

Can't say I'm pleased to hear it, but I'm not surprised, either. These days, everybody spies on everybody else. I'd be willing to bet money that as we speak, there are American spies in just about every country on Earth, including staunch allies like Britain, Australia, and Israel.

[*Don*]

I agree with Corinthian.

It's kinda like a commonplace thing nowadays.

[JCarter426]

Yeah, it happens more often than we think. I wouldn't be surprised if the US is spying on Israel too. But that doesn't make it right, especially when the US has been so ridiculously supportive of Israel.

[Corinthian]

True, but at the same time, The United States is essentially the keystone in Israel's efforts to survive. They need to keep their eyes peeled, because if the United States halts their support, Israel will be in the fight of their lives.

[Q]

This kind of thing has been going on between allies forever. It's nothing new. Allies spy on each other all the time.

[mimartin]

I'd be willing to bet money that as we speak, there are American spies in just about every country on Earth, including staunch allies like Britain, Australia, and Israel.

No bet, considering we are even spying on our own citizens without due process, I say it pretty safe we are spying on our allies.

[Totenkopf]

Nothing new here, except perhap this particular incident. Jonathan Pollard, anyone? Spying is probably as old as prostitution (how do you think the wives found out what their wayward husbands were up to anyway ).

[Rev7]

Can't say I'm pleased to hear it, but I'm not surprised, either. These days, everybody spies on everybody else. I'd be willing to bet money that as we speak, there are American spies in just about every country on Earth, including staunch allies like Britain, Australia, and Israel.

Well with all of these satelites orbiting the planet, nearly any country can 'spy'. It is commonplace. Hey, I don't think that America should have a double standard on this.

[Arcesious]

I could care less. This is Isreal we're talking about. They present no threat to us. But other countries, liek Russia, China, India, and the like- those countries are of the kind we need to watch out for...

[Web Rider]

I disagree, Israel presents a threat to us, but not in the most obvious manner. Being our bed buddies, they're not going to attack us or anything, but being the only truly pro-America nation in the middle east, they are quite literally our face in that section of the world. Because of this, what they do reflects back on us really, really quickly, and from the Arab world's opinion of them, generally badly too.

 

If Israel was less representative of US interests in the middle east, I think we wouldn't be having so many problems with the Arab world. In a nutshell, it's their screwups that get a lot of arab nations pissed at the US. And then they become a threat to us and our interests.

 

back on topic I'm not wholly surprised at this all. But given how close the US and Israel are, I'm surprised they couldn't have found out just by asking.

[JediAthos]

As was pointed out above...this is actually old news...the guy they arrested has been in the US for sometime and according to the AP article I read hasn't done any real spying in about twenty years. The organization he was working for no longer exists and his "handler" left the country long ago though it was said in the article that he maintained contact with that handler and that was one of the reasons he got caught.

 

Am I surprised the Israelis were spying on us? Not really..in fact I'd wager that pretty much all governments spy on each other regardless of alliances. The fact of the matter is that your best buddy could one day become your worst enemy and you have to be prepared for that.

[JCarter426]

I disagree, Israel presents a threat to us, but not in the most obvious manner. Being our bed buddies, they're not going to attack us or anything, but being the only truly pro-America nation in the middle east, they are quite literally our face in that section of the world. Because of this, what they do reflects back on us really, really quickly, and from the Arab world's opinion of them, generally badly too.

 

Precisely why the US should stay away from Israel and the Middle East in general.

[Arcesious]

The middle east is the greatest strategical point in the world. Why else would the U.S want control there? The formation of the terrain and countries/continents aroudn that area forms the greatest offense/defense point in the world for America to use if it ever went to war with any country in Europe, Asia, or Africa... Not to mention all the oil there... Why else do you think all of those countries want control of that place, besides it originally being Arab territory that was taken form the arabs and given to the Jews around the time of the Cold war. They want it back. (Or was it WWII or the Korean war? I haven't read a history book for awhile...)

[Ctrl Alt Del]

Can't say I'm pleased to hear it, but I'm not surprised, either. These days, everybody spies on everybody else. I'd be willing to bet money that as we speak, there are American spies in just about every country on Earth, including staunch allies like Britain, Australia, and Israel.

Q . F . T .

 

Precisely why the US should stay away from Israel and the Middle East in general.

I'm with Arcesious on this one. Keyword: Oil.

The middle east is the greatest strategical point in the world.

[JCarter426]

I'm with Arcesious on this one. Keyword: Oil.

 

I didn't ask why the US would want to stay in the Middle East. I said that the US should stay out of the Middle East. That's not a question.

[Corinthian]

If we withdraw from the Middle-East, Israel will eventually be destroyed by it's enemies. It's outnumbered by too significant of a margin to survive without allies, and we're pretty much all they've got. And I think we all know that if Israel saw it's own defeat coming, they would use the nukes we all know they've got.

[JCarter426]

If we withdraw from the Middle-East, Israel will eventually be destroyed by it's enemies.

 

I know this sounds harsh, but that's Israel's problem.

[Totenkopf]

I don't think it's possible for the US to stay entirely out of the mideast precisely b/c of its importance in the global energy market. The only way it would be remotely possible is if we were autarkical in the energy needs department.

[mimartin]

I know this sounds harsh, but that's Israel's problem.

And American politicians' problem, that is if they want to remain in office.

[JCarter426]

I don't think it's possible for the US to stay entirely out of the mideast precisely b/c of its importance in the global energy market. The only way it would be remotely possible is if we were autarkical in the energy needs department.

 

If the US spent its resources into developing alternative energy sources instead of fighting a war with half of the Middle East, then all that oil would be completely worthless.

 

And American politicians' problem, that is if they want to remain in office.

 

I know, and that's another problem. Such is life.

[Web Rider]

If we withdraw from the Middle-East, Israel will eventually be destroyed by it's enemies.

 

Which it does a wonderful job of NOT trying to get along with by blowing up civilian population centers to kill like, 5 terrorists. Yeah, they give real good reason to be left alone.

[Totenkopf]

If the US spent its resources into developing alternative energy sources instead of fighting a war with half of the Middle East, then all that oil would be completely worthless.

 

If we just exploited our own "fossil fuels", we'd probably not have to import any oil or gasoline. Since the infrastructure exists for those, it'd make more sense to go there first while we look for viable alternatives to develop to replace them with down the line.