Yar-El Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Very Sensitive Issue: What If Obama Loses? Newsweek has posted an article that is sensititive in nature. Some people believe that Obama will win for sure; however, they don't see that we are split fifty-fifty. A growing concern is how will the African-American community react if Obama loses. Some feel that if he does lose it will be because the election was stolen. This is a serious and sensitive issue. What If Obama Loses? African-Americans thought he had no chance—then they started to believe. Now they fear defeat. What is everyone's thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 What is everyone's thoughts? My thoughts include: A. What the **** does being black have to do with it? B. Elections aren't stolen, they're pre-determined. C. If Barack Obama loses and I'm correct about McCain, I'll leave the country for a better place to practice the lifestyle I wish to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astor Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 You do know that both sides fear defeat, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev7 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Race doesn't matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyri Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 I'm sure race does matter to a lot of people. It shouldn't, but thus is the world we live in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litofsky Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 I pose your question to you: what if McCain loses? The answer: Obama will become the next President of the United States. Simple as that. Now, if you're asking about the effects and such if Obama looses, please specify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astor Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 I'm sure race does matter to a lot of people. It shouldn't, but thus is the world we live in. Apparently a lot of people in the South weren't voting for the Democrats because of the race of their candidate. They seem to forget that we're all one race, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyri Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 I think you're confusing 'race' and 'species.' It's going to be a long while yet before the human race evolves enough to set aside racial backgrounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW01 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 It is quite disturbing that a democratic election is comin close to being a 'race' war... If Obama loses the election, then it simply means that the democrats didn't have enough support. Nothing more. People ought to remember just how close run this thing is so far - no one can predict how it's going to go in six weeks time. Given that America is composed of two parties, to me that shows that both have managed to gain the entire support of their parties. If a sizable percentage of Democrats were deciding on an issue so petty and irrelevant as 'race', it would have been much more obvious in polls, long before now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yar-El Posted September 28, 2008 Author Share Posted September 28, 2008 I'm guessing from the responses that Newsweek is full of hot air. Media groups like to create divisions when there are none. I agree with the mess of you. Someone's ethnic background is not important. Its all about substance. If Obama looses the election, it is caused by his inability to connect with the voters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderWiggin Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 If a sizable percentage of Democrats were deciding on an issue so petty and irrelevant as 'race', it would have been much more obvious in polls, long before now. There is a sizable percentage of Americans deciding by way of race. It shouldn't be so, but it is. I fear you're a bit in the dark here. _EW_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyri Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 I'm sure it evens out a bit because a lot of people are voting for him based on race as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGH ON PIE 14 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Well, if he loses soley because of race (which is what I think the question meant) that would be a terrible day for the U.S. African Americans have worked hard for equal treatment, and seeing one shot down for the presidency just because of race would be terrible. I doubt that this will happen though. First, the economic situation gave Obama some big points close to election day, something that will be hard for McCain to make up. Also, as Inyri said, the race facotor probably evens out. Even if Obama loses, I doubt it will be because of race. It will be because the other candidate earned more electoral points (or cheated for them) as the case may be. And so what if people in the south do not go for Obama? The republicans generally win those states anyway, so its not really a loss. ~HOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corinthian Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Well, if Obama loses, I'll have my faith reassured, I'll do a little dance, and I might even throw a party. Or I'll just find an Obama Chatroom, wait until someone comments that he only lost because of being 1/2 black, and then laugh at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW01 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 There is a sizable percentage of Americans deciding by way of race. It shouldn't be so, but it is. I fear you're a bit in the dark here. _EW_ I can't claim to know all about it, I merely meant that it is my percpetion that with the race for President as close as it is, it doesn't seem to have made a real impact with Democrat voters. As you say, it is shameful that such a thing should be a deciding factor in anyone's mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimartin Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 I'm sure race does matter to a lot of people. It shouldn't, but thus is the world we live in. QFT I'm in the South, while most of my family is Republican; a few are yellow dog Democrats. It saddens me, but most of these are determined to vote for McCain now. It has nothing to do with anything, but the color of Obama’s skin. My mother and stepfather were among this group (something I would have never guessed because I was taught to look at the real person and not outward appearances). However, after both choice running mates, the conventions and the first debate my parents are leaning strongly towards Obama. While I think race will be an issue with some voter on both sides, I don’t think it will be the deciding factor. Americans vote with their pocketbooks. If the economy was going well then race, national security and experience would matter. In this elects, with the current problems with the economy, the deciding factor IMO will be who will handle the economy better. Oh, if Obama loses I will pray every night for John McCain’s health. I may not like the idea of McSame as President, but Palin actually scares me. That and I will start working on Hilary in 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 If Barack Obama loses and I'm correct about McCain, I'll leave the country for a better place to practice the lifestyle I wish to.Careful, Sithy. You're starting to sound like those Hollywood flakes that threaten this same BS every time a Republican has a chance at the presidency... ...and then never bother to follow through. @mimartin: You're more afraid of Palin than Hilary?! Something does not compute here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 That and I will start working on Obama in 2012. Fixed @Qliveur: I'll take selfish and opportunistic over willfully ignorant and incompetent any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Agreed. I'd take Obama over Hilary any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGH ON PIE 14 Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 You're more afraid of Palin than Hilary?! Something does not compute here. Indeed. I'd take Obama over Hillary any day as well. ~HOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimartin Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 @mimartin: You're more afraid of Palin than Hilary?! Something does not compute here. As President Yes, I'm more afraid of Palin than Hilary. If we are taking about going out on a date, then I'm more afraid of Hilary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 ^^^ Excellent. @Qliveur: I'll take selfish and opportunistic over willfully ignorant and incompetent any day. Normally I would agree with you but that woman has aspirations of dictatorship if I've ever seen them. Don't we have enough of that right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGH ON PIE 14 Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 As President Yes, I'm more afraid of Palin than Hilary. If we are taking about going out on a date, then I'm more afraid of Hilary. Just brilliant. I tend to agree with Qliveur about Hillary though...she would do it if she thought she could get away with it. Oh, imagine poor Bill having to actually live with her. *shudders* ~HOP ~HOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jae Onasi Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Many of you are not old enough to remember the Rodney King incident and the LA '92 riots, and what happened to Reginald Denny. I lived in Ohio at the time, and I can tell you race anxiety went up tremendously, black and white both even there. We live in WI, and the race divide is still there, like it or not. If Obama loses by a definitive margin, I think we'll be OK. If Obama wins it won't be an issue. If Obama loses and the election is contested the way the 2000 election was, I think there might well be some race riots in the state(s) where the votes are contested, and it does concern me as I live in a swing state right now. Just brilliant. I tend to agree with Qliveur about Hillary though...she would do it if she thought she could get away with it. Oh, imagine poor Bill having to actually live with her. *shudders* I find the blatant sexism offensive. We don't joke about the men like this, I'd appreciate it if you all gave the women the same respect. And here we're talking about how we shouldn't be racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Why does not liking Hillary because of her demeanor constitute "blatant sexism"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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