News Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 As promised by Bioware, today we get to see 20 minutes of pure in-game action, featuring the Bounty Hunter, the Smuggler, and the recently announced Sith Warrior. The video also features most of the flashpoint event shown at E3. The 20 minutes of gameplay is split up into 4 smaller 5 minute videos which play one [...] Read the full story at starwarsmmo.net... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knight 12167 Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 LOL I watched this at 8 in this morning,Since Im an aussie it is now 6 O'Clock!! Anyway a awesome vid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamqd Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Creamy! I like the Korriban tomb detail, and smuggler moves... the Sith warship and Sith Lord, death from above, the detail on the landscapes lol, awesome stuff Very awesome stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom750 Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 This looks excellent my doubts about the game are slowly melting away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltiades Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Gameplay looks fine, I imagine this could be fun. The voice acting wasn't very good, though, and the writing was often horrible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrrtoken Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 The dialogue... it is awful (Even by BioWare's standards), both in execution and content. I can't really see how the choices would make any real difference; even if all of choices are to be considered as flavor, most of the others didn't really seem to have any difference whatsoever, at first glance. Lines that deserve mention: "The captain's dead! The captain's... dead. :ball:" "Cooperate... or die" I still can't figure out combat; is it purely RTwP, and if so, where is the "restriction" for abilities and movement? AFAIK, it looks like a turn-less system, but with no other penalty. The Korriban part was verily dull; I don't want "Purge [insert enemies here] from [insert location here]" quests; they're not fun, interesting, or any of the like, and are only based on powergrinding. Plus, the Tomb of Ajnuta Pall... doesn't look like the Tomb of Ajunta Pall, at all. The Sith Warship ended up as another grindfest. IMO, they could've taken it to greater strategic levels by organizing defenses and security levels; that would've provided greater role-playing and strategy, rather than simply going alone and killing everything via direct combat. In short, my already low expectations dropped dramatically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 I did have a long post about the first two videos commenting more in detail, but that got wiped out, so here's this one instead. :/ Dialogue is vile - "Hey indeed!", etc.; special abilities seem mostly to be feats pillaged from K1, the plot seems largely to be pillaged from the films even more blatantly than K1's was a homage, the VO is terrible, dialogue choices seem to be non-existent, but hidden behind the dialogue wheel system just in case, so you can't tell that all the options are exactly the same. The indication of what the quests consist of would seem to be standard MMO fare - fedexes, grinding/raids and collect ten rancor pelts - interspersed with Bioware's worst cutscenes ever. (Just what does "cinematic animation acting" or whatever the guy said in part 1 mean?). Consequences, despite the hyping, sound superficial and have no impact on the story progression. The idea that Dark Side points affect your character progression is also laughable. "Heroic combat" seems to be the code-phrase for "hideously unbalanced". The sparking from lightsaber combat is absurd, and actually obscures what's going on. The story looks vile, and confirms my suspicions: chock-full of gimmicks, and typical MMO stuff like grinding beyond belief interspersed with horrible, horrible dialogue. The fact that they have to hype the voice-acting so much also is probably not a good sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexrd Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Consequences, despite the hyping, sound superficial and have no impact on the story progression. How can you say that, if you only watched so few of the story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 How can you say that, if you only watched so few of the story? By looking at the examples given by the developers in the video, and Bioware's track record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexrd Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 By looking at the examples given by the developers in the video, and Bioware's track record. Possibly, the big impact appears forward on the story. The fact is that we still know so few about this game that we can't judge the game by a couple of videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Possibly, the big impact appears forward on the story. The fact is that we still know so few about this game that we can't judge the game by a couple of videos. Perhaps, but this is an MMO and by Bioware, and if they had included such consequences they would have hyped that, rather than talking so much about "cinematic" elements and the voice acting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litofsky Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 I'm watching the videos as I type, so prepare for bullet-like comments. "Anyway, all of (our) conversations are going to be like that: great dialogue and compelling choices." >_> Also, I need to feel like a Star Wars Hero™. An astounding replication of a Hammerhead. Truly, I am mesmerized by its realism and pretty flashy turbolasers. On a side note, why is the symbol used for the Empire (regular Star Wars one) being used 4,000 years earlier? Crowd control. Crowd control. Crowd control. Is there any other way to say 'Harm lotsa people quickly?' Crowd control. [/twenty minutes later] Finally finished. The combat was decent, nothing to be drooling over, but it was poor, either. The working together part was interesting, but not enough to make me go out and buy the game. For starters, I was deeply annoyed by the lack of 'consoles' in the scenes, particularly the ship. I remember, in both games, there were always a few consoles around that you could slice, blowing up enemies behind doors, gassing a room, or even turning droids to your sides. Here, it as 'Kill kill kill!' Perhaps I'm just being too harsh on the game, but, as of right now, I'm harboring serious doubts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthcarth Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Well after seeing that video i can say that i wont get this game though already I was having serious doubts. The animation for walking looks hideous and the wave emote looks quite honestly retarded. Besides that there was no challenge at all i love how they said you had to use team work on that last fight but tbh the sith could have taken on that jedi knight with out a problem. And yes the voice acting and dialogue was terrible reminds me of the kids centered clone wars series which i absolutely despise. I was hoping that this would honestly be great but bioware has ruined that hope but I guess it can complain for making it so casual/kid friendly as it seems that all mmorpgs are going that way now (example the new wow expansion). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueJedi86 Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 This is pre-alpha, plenty of room to improve the non-voicework areas. Animations and combat and such can be improved easily. Lots of games are far less playable at this stage of development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallucination Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Judging from the commentary in this thread I think I'll postpone watching the video for a few hours. >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nedak Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 I have a question for those who have tried the demo at E3. When you shot at NPCs were you holding down the mouse button, or did it automatically fire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maugomale Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Christ, everyone seems to be forgetting that this game is still WIP. There's plenty of time for it to be polished up before the final release. Sure, the dialogue isn't perfect, but as they say, this is the first fully-voiced MMO. It's at least better than having no voice at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WraithPrince Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 You should'nt complain too much about the voicing they could have pulled a bethesda on us and have 5 voice actors for everyone would'nt that be swell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 You should'nt complain too much about the voicing they could have pulled a bethesda on us and have 5 voice actors for everyone would'nt that be swell? So because it isn't abysmal it shouldn't be critiqued? Nice logic there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demongo Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Well the melee combat could be a little bit better but other than that I'm........................................I'm impressed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WraithPrince Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 So because it isn't abysmal it shouldn't be critiqued? Nice logic there. Ok maybe thats not the best example. But having a 'cinamatic' conversation is alot better then scrolling through 2 paragraphs for the 3 or 4 important words. kill 20 man-eating rabits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Ok maybe thats not the best example. But having a 'cinamatic' conversation is alot better then scrolling through 2 paragraphs for the 3 or 4 important words. kill 20 man-eating rabits. I'd argue that if you're looking at it like that - indeed, if you're writing it like that, then you're doing it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathoris Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 movie kinda fails. I understand the game is still far from finished but Bioware is all about showing things when it is of acceptable quality and stuff. so this doesn't give me much hope. The graphics are still off, the animations are bad, the VO work is hilariously poor. Bad feeling..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom750 Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 How do people judge the Voice Over as bad i'm seeing alot of people saying this whats so bad about it reason people please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gstommylee Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 I think its a too early to be jumping the bandwagon. Like a few said animations aren't final graphics maybe polished by the time its released. They showed very little of the voice over work. The walkthrough video is not the current build that they are working on now. Its possible most things could been already improved with the current build they are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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