Kurgan Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 It seems to me that the EU wrote that Coruscant took a long time to be retaken by the Rebel Alliance/New Republic. But Lucas, when making the SE's in 1997 (and 2004) intended for us, the audience, to assume that we were seeing Coruscant liberated. So the fans are left with a few possible options: 1) Seconds after the scene at the end of ROTJ, the Empire stormed in, and shot everyone. The celebration was trashed and it took awhile for Coruscant to be liberated, like the EU has been saying all along. 2) The scene in the SE took place a LONG time later than the rest of the shots. It wasn't a simultaneous shot (the same night) but rather could have taken place weeks, months or even years after everyone else went home from Endor. 3) Lucas changed the story. Ignore the EU thing, and just assume that Coruscant was liberated from the Empire as shown, in a reasonably short time frame with the rest of the Endor celebration and other planet shots. G-Level canon overrides C-Level canon in this case. 4) Assume that, per the movie, Coruscant was liberated, but then it was shortly afterward re-captured by some Imperial force. Then it took awhile for it to be re-liberated. So when you read in the EU about it being liberated, you assume they mean the SECOND liberation, after the (off screen, off page) re-capture. 5) What we see in the movie is just a tiny, tiny, insignificant portion of Coruscant. The entire planet was not liberated, just a little bit of it. The rest remained under Imperial control for a long time. This seems implausible, but then again it maybe was a PR stunt like what happened in Iraq (the well televised tearing down of the Saddam statues in 2003 with a crowd of celebrating Iraqis) early in the course of the war/occupation. It would seem odd that the rest of the Imperial controlled planet would allow the capital or this small area to tear down statues of the Emperor and crowd surf Stormtroopers without something very bad happening to them. I figure the "official" explanation is probably #1 or #4. Like Boba Fett's death, it seems that we simply have a conflict between the story Lucas wants to tell and the story he allows his liscensed writers to tell. Or we could chalk it up to him letting them write the story then changing his mind later and creating the inconsistency himself (like the age of the Republic issue). But as fans dealing with "canon" issues you obviously have all that mess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shok_Tinoktin Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 I'm pretty sure the EU does address this issue. I'm pretty sure the answer is something along the lines of #1 or #5, or some combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revan Solo Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 The fireworks were added 1997? Didn't they were in the original version from 1982? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 Originally posted by Revan Solo The fireworks were added 1997? Didn't they were in the original version from 1982? The fireworks that happen in the sky of Endor, during the Ewok celebration, with X-wings flying past, THAT is in the original version. In the 1997 SE, that scene TRANSITIONS into a scene of fireworks going off in the skies of Bespin, Tatooine and finally Coruscant. The 2004 edition tosses Naboo into that mix. So the fireworks were always there, but more fireworks were added for the SE... get it now? Tiny nitpick: ROTJ was released in theaters in 1983, not 1982. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahSkywalker Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 I voted for Empire Strikes Back because it had the most adventure and the most twists. It was way more interesting the ANH and ROTJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane_1990 Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Hi. To be honset with u, there all to gd to chose on fav film out of the trilogey. But i suppose Empire Strikes Back, considering i think mostprobaley i wacthed that more out of the other two. Cya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Obi-Wan Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Ooooo....old thread. Meh. I like ESB the best. It was awesome! Great action. But Luke wasn't frozen in carbonite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSR Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 which is the one with the rancor? gotta be my favourite!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Probably ESB. But I really have come to view the OT it as one long film... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Obi-Wan Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 which is the one with the rancor? gotta be my favourite!!!! OMG!!!!!!111 Yeah, it was Return of the Jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagnaGuard Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 Empire Strikes Back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jae Onasi Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 ROTJ for me, but I like them all. I have to say, being old enough to have seen ESB in the theater, I _hated_ being left at a cliffhanger for 3 entire years. Now we only have to wait as long as it takes to put the next DVD in, but back then, ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Obi-Wan Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 ROTJ for me, but I like them all. I have to say, being old enough to have seen ESB in the theater, I _hated_ being left at a cliffhanger for 3 entire years. Now we only have to wait as long as it takes to put the next DVD in, but back then, ugh. Eh, your lucky. I had to wait nine years to see a Star Wars movie in theatres. And some others even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Point Man Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Gotta go with Star Wars. What can I say, I'm old enough that to me the first will always be called just Star Wars. It was so groundbreaking! Yes, the others may have been better made, but the original was just that--original. I remember how excited everyone was that summer of 1977. Here was something fresh and new. It defined popular culture for the period, and continues to this day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
†Saint_Killa† Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 ESB. It's just great and it's the first SW movie I watched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boinga1 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 I have to give the nod to ROTJ. It wraps up the whole story, and has some of the best scenes in the first three. The Sail Barge, the Battle of Endor, the duel on the Death Star, Palpatine's Force Lightning, and more. The only scene that can compare (in the other two), IMO, is the Bespin duel in ESB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 I have to give the nod to ROTJ. It wraps up the whole story, and has some of the best scenes in the first three. The Sail Barge, the Battle of Endor, the duel on the Death Star, Palpatine's Force Lightning, and more. The only scene that can compare (in the other two), IMO, is the Bespin duel in ESB.YOU FORGOT EWOKS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
master_skywalke Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Empire closely followed by ANH and ROTJ. ESB was just the best with the Battle of Hoth and the Asteriod Field, Bespin and Dagobah. Not to forget the great scoe of John Williams To me it has the best score of all three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSR Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 YOU FORGOT EWOKS! oh yeh, i did. well, i couldnt really see them undernath my at-st's foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCusto Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 I have to say, Return of the Jedi has always been my favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 Probably ESB. But I really have come to view the OT it as one long film... This is how I see all the Star Wars movies now that they are all released. And, I have watched that 'one long film' in one sitting! But my favourite is probably Return of the Jedi. Though all of them have certain things I like better than the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 But my favourite is probably Return of the Jedi. Though all of them have certain things I like better than the others.Indeed. It is funny that one of the best duels occures in TPM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lateforwork Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 I'll say Return of the Jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve-O Kreesh Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 Empire hands down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo-7 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 I love all star wars movies but i voted for Ep4, cause its the only movie where u see other people and alliens from star wars. Its great to see a city (Mos Eisly) with ships, houses and all in a galaxie far far away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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