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  1. 1. Best WWII FPS?

    • Medal of honour
      1
    • Call of duty
      16
    • Battlefield 1942
      9
    • Hidden & Dangerous II
      0
    • other (Please specify)
      4


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*shrugs*

 

MOH is pretty nice, and has a great mood, tho it's lacking something for me, lacking the feeling to be a part of something big. BF1942's multiplayer is absolutely splendid, but the single-player is far from that quality. I mean, it really sucks that when you're fixing your tank, a bot jumps into it and drives away. H&D 2 had nice graphics, nothing too great, but it certainly is unique. Also, the sniping in it is just awesome, it really gives a kick to kill an enemy with a headshot from the other side of the map. COD, to me, is the best WW2 game I've played. I love the atmosphere, it just has what MOH missed.

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LOL yes well i have BF1942, CoD, and MoHAA and have played all extensively. Yes BF1942's MP gamelplay is superb and CoD has the better more in depth SP action but was a little short. RpTheHotrod plays something called wwiionline that from what i've heard is mind boggling in depth (something like actually taking 3 days to cross a field) so i'll have him post here about that.

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...umm...Saving Private Ryan.....???? That was pretty realistic for me....... Ive actually NEVER played any of the games in the above list...... I find the idea of playing a game of something that actually happenned not too long ago boring and perhaps even insulting to those people who fought and died in those conflicts.... Best thing to do kiddies, go talk to Grandpa, or visit a local nursing home and speak to a veteran, and get a *real "first person" perspective of what happenned in WWII. I worked at a veterans hospital for 2 years and heard some *amazing* stories and saw all sorts of things..... I wouldnt want to take that back from those men/women by running around on a computer screen trying to emulate their efforts...

 

when it comes to games, I like to keep it unrealistic and fun :

*Astro adorns his Black Mage's cape, Fire Staff and prances off into another Final Fantasy adventure*

 

mtfbwya

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Originally posted by Astrotoy7

...umm...Saving Private Ryan.....???? That was pretty realistic for me....... Ive actually NEVER played any of the games in the above list...... I find the idea of playing a game of something that actually happenned not too long ago boring and perhaps even insulting to those people who fought and died in those conflicts.... Best thing to do kiddies, go talk to Grandpa, or visit a local nursing home and speak to a veteran, and get a *real "first person" perspective of what happenned in WWII. I worked at a veterans hospital for 2 years and heard some *amazing* stories and saw all sorts of things..... I wouldnt want to take that back from those men/women by running around on a computer screen trying to emulate their efforts...

 

when it comes to games, I like to keep it unrealistic and fun :

*Astro adorns his Black Mage's cape, Fire Staff and prances off into another Final Fantasy adventure*

 

mtfbwya

 

Let me weigh the optons. Change diapers on old men, and listen to them gripe about how things used to be and oughta be, or play a video game...Hearing an old feller gripe, is not a "*real "first person" experiance at all.

 

Also, I think it's a little rediculous that you're real quick to damn people that like to play "boring" and "insulting" games based on WWII, but your content to watch and praise a film based on the same thing. I know when I play ANY game, I'm not trying to mock or emulate anything that's happened in the past, whether it be real or fantasy. I'm just trying to have a good time.

 

I can't believe that none of these alledged poor old grampa veterans you advocate so freely without asking would be bothered that I play a game that in fact honers them. Many veterans are proud that they were able to serve, and wouldn't take their war time experiances back for anything. Some, I'm sure would even say they had a good time serving. So what's wrong with us "kiddies" playing games that pay homage to these men? Nothing, I say.

 

In closing, I'd like to point out that one of the biggest selling games in Japan recently, is the new MOH. Where Japanese "kiddies" get to play as an American, shooting at bot representations of their grandfathers. If they're not bothered by it, why should I be? More over, why should YOU be?

 

*EDIT* Final Fantasy chugs ass fluids. ;):D

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Originally posted by CapNColostomy

Let me weigh the optons. Change diapers on old men, and listen to them gripe about how things used to be and oughta be, or play a video game....

 

Also, I think it's a little rediculous that you're real quick to damn people that like to play "boring" and "insulting" games based on WWII, but your content to watch and praise a film based on the same thing.....

 

So what's wrong with us "kiddies" playing games that pay homage to these men? Nothing, I say.

 

*EDIT* Final Fantasy chugs ass fluids. ;):D

 

Mr Colostomy, many of the points you raised about veterans being honored to serve are well made. However, I still think many would prefer the company younger people could offer them rather than giving homage to them by playing a video game. Loneliness and depression is one of the major afflictions plaguing the aging community. I have worked in 2 repatriation hospitals(for war veterans) and managed service provision to over 30 aged care facilties(all of which I have 'worked the floor' on) over the last 6 years.... The people who are best off are those frequently visited by their family and especially by their grandkids.

 

So, sarcastically implying you need to "weigh the options" as to whether to change an old mans diapers or play a video game, shows a sad level of immaturity, not to mention the "chugs ass fluids" comment.....

 

Which brings me to your point about Saving Private Ryan.... When I(and Im sure many others) sat and watched this movie, we came out emotionally and physically drained, with a deeper understanding of the horrors ans sacrifices of war. I invite any of you who play these games to comment about whether playing these games has had a similar effect on you....

 

So playing BF online, and you've shot someone in the head with a sniper rifle, and you both sit back and say, "oh the horrors of war" This doesnt mean its wrong to play these games, its just the games and that movie have a markedly different intention and effect, and hence can hardly be compared....

 

Actually, do you know, having a colostomy bag is equivalent to chugging a$$ fluids..... and playing Final Fantasy is more fun than having a colostomy bag, surely ! :p

 

mtfbwya

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I've only played COD.

 

My dad was in WWII, and I grew up hearing all the stories. He has a million WWII books, and a million more WWII videos, and I sat through them all, with a running commentary of all the continuity errors etc. I have a very very deep respect for all those that fought and gave up their lives in WWII.

 

I don't feel playing a WWII game in any way disrespects it. A lot of people will get nothing out of it other than the thrill of killing a Nazi, but a lot more will gain a respect for what it must of been like to fight in that war and live every second in fear, and that can only be a good thing.

 

I wasn't interested in playin a WWII game, but I do like to experience all types of games, so decided to download the COD demo, and consequently purchase it. I was amazed at it's realism, and it has only served to enhance my respect for the veterens and those who gave their lives for their country.

 

There is also a discussion going on in the GameSpy forums as to whether it is appropriate to have a game based on Vietnam out so close to the conflict. I can only repeat what I've said above. Maybe it will give people more of an understanding of what it must be like to fight in a war.

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I've only played a bit of BF. But from the screenshots and videos of COD i have to say COD.

 

I have an uncle that was in vietnam and he's looking forward to the new vietnam game, the last games that were released about it, he thinks were too innacurate, the enemy's just weren't random enough and incredibly spontaneous as they were in the war, where they would jump out of trees, come from behind bushes, holes in the ground.

 

My opa faught in the last part of ww2 and through the korean war. I love playing these games and I know he would too. I grew up to stories about the wars, from my uncle and my opa. I have to echo leXX's response about the games bringing you more respect for them. While it doesn't have as much realism as say once you die you're kicked from the server <_< it's still frightening not knowing when your enemy is going to pop up and shoot at you.

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Originally posted by Astrotoy7

Mr Colostomy, many of the points you raised about veterans being honored to serve are well made. However, I still think many would prefer the company younger people could offer them rather than giving homage to them by playing a video game. Loneliness and depression is one of the major afflictions plaguing the aging community. I have worked in 2 repatriation hospitals(for war veterans) and managed service provision to over 30 aged care facilties(all of which I have 'worked the floor' on) over the last 6 years.... The people who are best off are those frequently visited by their family and especially by their grandkids.

 

So, sarcastically implying you need to "weigh the options" as to whether to change an old mans diapers or play a video game, shows a sad level of immaturity, not to mention the "chugs ass fluids" comment.....

 

Which brings me to your point about Saving Private Ryan.... When I(and Im sure many others) sat and watched this movie, we came out emotionally and physically drained, with a deeper understanding of the horrors ans sacrifices of war. I invite any of you who play these games to comment about whether playing these games has had a similar effect on you....

 

So playing BF online, and you've shot someone in the head with a sniper rifle, and you both sit back and say, "oh the horrors of war" This doesnt mean its wrong to play these games, its just the games and that movie have a markedly different intention and effect, and hence can hardly be compared....

 

Actually, do you know, having a colostomy bag is equivalent to chugging a$$ fluids..... and playing Final Fantasy is more fun than having a colostomy bag, surely ! :p

 

mtfbwya

 

You also make very valid points, Mr. "Toy". I just don't happen to agree with the notion that it's fine for Tom "Bosom Buddies" Hanks and Steven Spielberg to play soldier, but not me. Believe it or not, little boys throughout the world were playing soldier/army games, LOOOONG before the advent of WWII shooters, or any first person shooters, or hell, even any type of computer/console. I wasn't emotionally drained, or anything near it when I watched that movie, because like most "mature" people, I am able to tell the difference between a movie and reality. Movies never have that effect on me. It was, however, a very good movie.

 

I also probably don't need to point out the hillarity of someone calling me immature, who in the same breath and thought assumes anyone who plays WWII is a "kiddie", do I?

 

Also, having a colostomy bag doesn't mean you drink ass fluids. Where did you get that? And I don't have a colostomy bag. I guess it's an easy assumption to make since it's in my name, but I didn't assume you were a toy, or even easier to do, assume you were a gal. And as far as playing FF being more fun than having a colostomy bag, I'm sure that's debatable. But I'll ask around, if you like.

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Originally posted by leXX

I've only played COD.

 

My dad was in WWII, and I grew up hearing all the stories. He has a million WWII books, and a million more WWII videos, and I sat through them all, with a running commentary of all the continuity errors etc. I have a very very deep respect for all those that fought and gave up their lives in WWII.

 

I don't feel playing a WWII game in any way disrespects it. A lot of people will get nothing out of it other than the thrill of killing a Nazi, but a lot more will gain a respect for what it must of been like to fight in that war and live every second in fear, and that can only be a good thing.

 

Well put, very well put.

 

Oh, besides, when it comes to realistic wargames, I love the SP of Black Hawk Down. Just.. Incredibly realistic.

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I've played Medal of Honor games for the GC and Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory. I remember when I first played MOH: Frontline and stormed the beaches of Normandy. It was my first experience playing a World War II game, and I was, quite frankly, blown away.

 

I've been deeply interested in World War II since I was about ten or so. Never has there ever been a conflict where more lives were lost or the stakes so high. It was a war that brought out the very best and the very worst that human beings are capable of. I have a deep respect for the veterans of World War II, as they have gone through more hell and bloodshed than I will ever know, short of being in a war myself.

 

I know this might sound odd, but when I played the Normandy level, I was able to get a glimpse into the world of terror and slaughter that was many a soldier's daily life. As I saw virtual soldiers get cut down by machine guns and strafing aircraft and get blown to smithereens by artillery, the experience suddenly became quite emotional to me.

 

I realized that people actually fought and died in such chaotic spectacles, only the experience was much more intense. I could simply retry if I "died," but they had no second chance. Instead of whole bodies fading away, they saw mangled, bloody pieces of bodies that were once friends that never faded from their memories. Instead of a feeling of euphoria when they put a virtual bullet into a virtual German's head, they felt a mix of revulsion and regret at killing a fellow human being and an inhuman detachment towards death that haunted them for years to come.

 

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I have no problem playing WWII games, in fact they're one of my favorite games to play, but that's because I know that no matter how realistic the game is, it doesn't come close to the true horror that war really is. (After all, a game wouldn't sell if it was depressing, rather than entertaining, to play) You can have fun playing war games, but you have to remember that real war, in all its doom and gloom, is never even remotely mirthful and entertaining.

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