Renegade Angel Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 You have it all wrong, okay. Myspace isnt to blame, myspace is perfectly safe. It's the 13 year old girls who have pictures of them in slutty, revealing outfits, with captions that read: "*Cum* And Get Some" (Yes I really have seen this...) Why do people have to bitch saying OMG MYSPACE SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN! SOMEONE KIDNAPPED MY DAUGHTER. Well I'd show the parent their daughter's Myspace page, then maybe she'd change her attitude about them. I mean really, think about this guys, if kids wouldnt put their pics up, or fake their age and bypass the "Private Profile" for under certain ages, maybe people would see that it's not Myspace. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 If people aren't provided with an easy avenue to put up stupid pics of themselves where insane stalker guys will want to kidnap and rape them, then said kidnapping and raping wouldn't be a problem. It's still Myspace's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan7 Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 myspace isnt to blame for people misusing the site. and anyone who wants it closed down are weird! myspace makes every effort to make itself safe, but at the end of the day they can only do so much. firstly, kids these days are sexualised far too young, personally i blame the media, you have 25 year old stunning actress playing the roles of 15 year old girls, and people wonder why loads of people have eating disorders/try to look older. kids have forgotten the joys of being young. anyways, any of these kids that are doing this should be found and have theyre ip banned, any pedofiles found on the site should have their ip banned as well myspace shouldnt be shut down as the majority of people are honest people using it! parents are responsible for their children, so before they blame myspace, they should have a long hard look at their parenting, its their responsibility to teach their children and make sure they dont place themselves at risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderWiggin Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 anyways, any of these kids that are doing this should be found and have theyre ip banned, any pedofiles found on the site should have their ip banned as well. Not saying that I agree or disagree on the Myspace topic, as I see both sides. Now Jonathan, if Myspace.com knew that pedophiles were on the site, they would ban them, but obviously, it's not as easy as that. _EW_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 MySpace doesn't track IP addresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade Angel Posted July 12, 2006 Author Share Posted July 12, 2006 I like MySpace, it's a nice place to chat, but seriously, I dont think it's MySpace's fault, sure it provides a way to put up slutty pics etc, but its not like they intended kids to do that, I've seen numerous kids with slutty pics of themselves, and saying they're 20 when they're really 13. It's pretty common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 If people aren't provided with an easy avenue to put up stupid pics of themselves where insane stalker guys will want to kidnap and rape them, then said kidnapping and raping wouldn't be a problem. It's still Myspace's fault. What kind of bull**** is that? Better yet, let's just blame the internet, it allows for an easy avenue to be raped. See that? I skipped a step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Windu Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Myspace makes stalkers like chocolate made Rosie O'Donnell fat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Myspace makes stalkers like chocolate made Rosie O'Donnell fat. So in essence MySpace/chocolate is blamed for what McDonalds has done? That god damn crafty clown bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 You don't need myspace to post pictures of yourself, you can do that in a lot of places on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Windu Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 I swear that Ronald statue groped me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 You don't need myspace to post pictures of yourself, you can do that in a lot of places on the internet. Just post that **** outside. Tell everyone "look at my tree, I got nekkid pictures of me nailed to it". Basically the only people to blame are those personally involved in the matter, The dumbass kid and the creepy ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Just post that **** outside. Tell everyone "look at my tree, I got nekkid pictures of me nailed to it". Basically the only people to blame are those personally involved in the matter, The dumbass kid and the creepy ****. Yeah, and the pictures would be taken down. At the very least, MySpace should take some preventative measures against the pedos and stalkers lurking around their site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jae Onasi Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Here's what I think. 1. There is a technology gap that makes it harder for parents to keep up with what's going on. I didn't even know about myspace until I heard about it on America's most wanted when they were going after pedophiles who (surprise, surprise) found their targets on myspace. Some parents can't use a computer much if at all, so there's no way they'd be able to figure out just what someone like RJM is doing down there on his computer in his basement. 2. Parents aren't as involved in these kids' lives as they need to be in some of these cases. There's no way parents can control everything their kids do, but what the heck are some of these 12 and 13 year olds doing, and why isn't there better oversight? A parent can't say 'oh woe is me, my 12 year old daughter got assaulted' if they let her stay out til 2 am wearing racy clothing and not bothering to even ask who she's going with and where. I'd never let my child dress like some of the things I've seen teen girls wearing, and I sure wouldn't let them hang out in places or with people who do some of these things. Yes, my kids will hate me for pulling the 'everyone else may be doing it, but that doesn't mean you have to be a lemming and follow along' card when I tell them they can't do something. And I don't care in the least, because I'm there to be their mother, not their best buddy. Their safety is far more important to me than what my approval rating happens to be on their poll that day. It is one of my fundamental duties as a parent to protect my children, and some parents are dropping the ball, even if they have the best of intentions. Those of us parents who do have an understanding of computers can make it a lot harder for them to post inappropriate information (filters are not expensive), and do something even as simple as googling the kid's name (or screen name(s)) to see what's out there. You'd be surprised at the information you can pick up by googling a name.... I put the majority of the blame on the parents for not supervising what's going on in their kids' lives. 3. Teens have to remember a couple simple rules--a. if you wouldn't shout it to a friend across a room full of strangers, don't say it on the net. b. not everyone is who they say they are. Adults aren't immune to forgetting this. My sister-in-law, who I really do love and who would give you the shirt off her back, is just not real bright. She met a guy from Pakistan in some chat room and after a mere 3 weeks, he declared his 'true love' for her and asked her to marry him, even though they'd never met or talked on the phone. She believed him and went over to Pakistan to get married to him (and she made it back to the US, thank heavens). She gave out a ton of information, his was extremely vague--"I'm a banker" but he wouldn't say what bank or explain why he wasn't allowed to fly into the US (can we say he's on a watch list, anyone?). His brother, who is in the US, is now under investigation for fraud and tax evasion. She thought he was a wonderful guy based on all the sappy stuff he said in emails, when in fact he's been a terrible manipulator trying to get into the US by getting married to a foolish woman. 4. Some teens are lying. Lying about your age to get into a more adult/older site to talk about heavens knows what and show others somthing that is obscene (or darn close) is pretty risky behavior. They know the rules, and they break them anyway. 5. Myspace is not doing an adequate job of policing their own site. They own it, they run it, they're responsible for enforcing the rules they create. It looks to me like they're doing a 'hey kids, don't put dirty pics up, and if you do,we'll remove them, wink-wink, nudge-nudge in about 4 years so everyone can see them first'. Myspace is taking on incredible liability by not policing itself aggressively enough. 6. Criminals are using the sites to find victims--if anyone bears the greatest guilt, it's the people who commit the crimes in the first place. We need to quit slapping the wrists of those who use cyberspace to pursue criminal activities. Myspace doesn't bear all the blame, but it does bear some for not fully enforcing all their own rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbieZ Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Ive never been as lucky as to receive at least one sexually provocative mail and erotic friend request. May have something to do with my profile picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSR Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 .........herbie..... let's blame tom just for the hell of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ztalker Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 You have it all wrong, okay. Myspace isnt to blame, myspace is perfectly safe. It's the 13 year old girls who have pictures of them in slutty, revealing outfits, with captions that read: "*Cum* And Get Some" (Yes I really have seen this...) Why do people have to bitch saying OMG MYSPACE SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN! SOMEONE KIDNAPPED MY DAUGHTER. Well I'd show the parent their daughter's Myspace page, then maybe she'd change her attitude about them. I mean really, think about this guys, if kids wouldnt put their pics up, or fake their age and bypass the "Private Profile" for under certain ages, maybe people would see that it's not Myspace. I couldn't agree with you more...its getting worse and worse. One of my friends (19 yeard old) was contacted by a little girl of 12 for..well...'cargo ramping.' A girl of 12. im not kidding.'That's illegal ffs... When i look at myself, when i was twelve, i didn't do such things. It seems like the overall attitude is changing....for the worse. What happened to the 12-year old people that play games on their computer, listen to music, instead of 'selling themselves' on myspace? How can it be that the generation below the ones on these forums is acting like sluts, while the people in here act like adults? In a timespan of 2-3 years, the teens (or even kids) have 'sluttinated.' I'm getting sick of it. I'm shocked that kids of that age even think about stuff like sexuality and the like. They should be out playing, not staying behind their computers selling themselves to older people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igyman Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Pornography on MySpace? Why didn't you tell me sooner?? Seriously, now, that site wasn't designed for that purpose, so they are not to blame... completely. Those kids who decide to post that kind of pictures are the ones to blame. Or maybe their parents who didn't raise them properly, since those kids don't realize how sick that is. The only thing you can blame MySpace for is for not banning those members from their site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbieZ Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 .........herbie..... let's blame tom just for the hell of it Indeed. He's no-ones friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Those kids that are getting stalked or kidnapped after posting on myspace would be the same ones drawing the same attention in real life if they didn't have myspace. It seems to be common sense that they don't have and the specifice type of attention they seem to be looking for they get. This isn't new. Only difference is now parents have someone they can blame (and sue). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jae Onasi Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 I couldn't agree with you more...its getting worse and worse. One of my friends (19 yeard old) was contacted by a little girl of 12 for..well...'cargo ramping.' A girl of 12. im not kidding.'That's illegal ffs... Only on this forum would the words 'cargo ramping' have that kind of meaning.... Seriously, there's 2 possible things going on with a 12 year old being sexually active. a. She's lying about her age. b. She's been a victim of sexual abuse--girls who are promiscuous at that young of an age have a high probability of having been abused in that manner, unfortunately often by a family member (not like it would be fortunate or better any other way, but it's particularly bad when it's someone in the family). When I was 12, boys were still 'icky'. @Hannibal--I agree with you, except for one thing. Without the internet, these kids have a much smaller audience. It's limited to those people they'd actually be able to meet. With myspace and other similar sites, they've now expanded their potential audience by potentially 100's of thousands. Say 1% of people someone meets is a predator (and I don't know if that's accurate, but it makes for easy math for this example.). Say the teen has interaction with about 500 people (which I believe is about as big a group that one can reasonably know). The teen potentially would have contact with 5 predators. Now, say she puts something up at myspace, and I'm going to be arbitrary and say 100,000 people have access to that. Suddenly, her potential exposure has gone from 5 people to 100 people. That is a tremendous increase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade Angel Posted July 12, 2006 Author Share Posted July 12, 2006 When I was 12 (RIGHT NOW!) Preppy girls have 5 boys all over them, wanting to go out with them, Then the little groups of friends are busy talking about what theyre gonna go do after school, Then there's me, Charlie, and Kevin, we sit there listening to our iPods while talking about the most random things. Then sometimes I talk to my gf and her little friends. So ya, call our school messed up, but my 9 year old cousin has a bf, so I think I can say this: WTF ARE SOME PEOPLE THINKING!!!! I dont even know what I'm saying anymore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Source Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 I cannot believe that someone, at any age, would put personal information or pics online. I also have to remember that the internet made its preimer when I was 19-20. I wonder if the parents have warned them about online security. If there is anyone to blame, I would start with the parent. 12yrs old is way too early for unsupervised internet access. I think 16 yrs old will surffice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jae Onasi Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 @RA--I was 12 quite awhile back. Your cousin's parents need to keep an eye on her and her 'boyfriend'. If they're the same age, they're probably just friends. One of my son's best friends is a girl, but there's no thought of anything 'cargo ramping' related. They're still into Bionicles and Super Diaper Baby, and my son currently thinks kissing is the most disgusting thing on the face of the planet. @MacLeod--I wonder if the parents understand internet security period. I let our kids on the internet but only if I'm in the same room with them and only if they go to NickJr.com or some other site specifically for kids. They know not to mess with the address window, and if they did, I'd be right there to stop it anyway. I'm going to get a whitelist filter (which is far more limiting than a blacklist filter) for that computer to prevent accidental travelling to inappropriate sites. They won't have computers in their bedrooms (or TVs for that matter--we don't want to encourage excess TV watching). I don't plan on standing over them when they're teens and watching every single thing, but if they know I can see what's on the screen at any given time as I pass by the kitchen table where they're doing their homework or whatever, it's going to be a lot harder for them to go to inappropriate sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Source Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 @Jae Onasi - Uneducated parents on the ins and outs of the internet. That is quite possible. Since some parents don't take the time to learn, their children are beacons for trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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