Rogue15 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 you know what they say about people with big shoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mav Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 you know what they say about people with big shoesThey have bad foot odor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascendant_Justice Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 It's not like throwing a shoe can do any serious damage. If it had hit him, Bush would've had a nice shiny bruise on his face, at worst. It was not assault. Wat? Refer back to the Austin Powers reference. That really hurts.... Seriously though, I'm sure a shoe can do some damage if it hits hard enough in the right place. I imagine it can knock a tooth out or put an eye out of commission for a while. And it was most certainly assault, at least by US standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adavardes Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Wat? Refer back to the Austin Powers reference. That really hurts.... Seriously though, I'm sure a shoe can do some damage if it hits hard enough in the right place. I imagine it can knock a tooth out or put an eye out of commission for a while. And it was most certainly assault, at least by US standards. ... And...? I'm seriously at a loss for why I should care about Bush getting hurt, beyond the comedic value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctrl Alt Del Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Besides the sole of a shoe as being an insult, calling someone a dog or a pig is really bad. The worst ones, according to muslim culture. Deserved, if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 ... And...? I'm seriously at a loss for why I should care about Bush getting hurt, beyond the comedic value. bush = u.s. = freedom >:| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascendant_Justice Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 ... And...? I'm seriously at a loss for why I should care about Bush getting hurt, beyond the comedic value. It doesn't matter if you care about him. I never said anything about caring. Just because someone doesn't care for Obama or Hillary Clinton doesn't make it alright to throw a stinky shoe at their face does it? All I said was, by legal standards, it's assault. No opinion required. I prefer the Pokéball version anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderQ Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 I still find it surprising on how slow the Secret Service reacted, but then again, who'd expect a shoe assualt? Still, it took them a bit longer than usual it would seem{not that this happens often, but if you see other videos, you'll see the secret service move very very fast} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 perhaps, they were in on it? XD yeah seriously though, i have no respect for someone that throws a shoe at our president, regardless of how good of a president he is or isn't, he's still our president. i hope the guy got what he deserved. (a kick in the ass) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan7 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 You know if it had been Saddam that guy would have been executed, probably through torture. What that guy did was not free speech, it was assault. It'd only of been assault if he had hit him, besides the Secret Service really weren't much better than Saddam's guys - they beat the guy up so badly he left a trail of blood. I have to agree with JM, that if Bush is so pro-freedom of speech he should of let the journalist stay in for the rest of the meeting and request no charges be pressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 It'd only of been assault if he had hit him, besides the Secret Service really weren't much better than Saddam's guys - they beat the guy up so badly he left a trail of blood. I have to agree with JM, that if Bush is so pro-freedom of speech he should of let the journalist stay in for the rest of the meeting and request no charges be pressed.that guy is pretty cool for throwing his shoes at that ******* bush, but even i think throwing shoes at someone isnt covered by free speech since he uh, threw shoes at him and didnt just call him a dog and yell NOW PRETEND I THREW SHOES AT YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderWiggin Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 That, of course, isn't taking into account the fact that he just committed an aggravated assault on a world leader. Seriously? Do you even know what aggravated assault is? Or do you just consider a shoe a violent weapon? Wat? Refer back to the Austin Powers reference. That really hurts.... Seriously though, I'm sure a shoe can do some damage if it hits hard enough in the right place. I imagine it can knock a tooth out or put an eye out of commission for a while. And it was most certainly assault, at least by US standards. Shoes don't do much damage. Really. And whether or not he committed assault by US standards is irrelevant. (hint: this took place in Iraq.) _EW_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev7 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 At most least, it would have left him with a bruise. I am sure that he has had much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 (hint: this took place in Iraq.)exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascendant_Justice Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Seriously? Do you even know what aggravated assault is? Or do you just consider a shoe a violent weapon? Yes, and some definitions of it don't say anything about what kind of weapon it has to be, so long as it's a weapon, which I think is exactly what these shoes were turned into since he launched two of them at someone's face. And whether or not he committed assault by US standards is irrelevant. (hint: this took place in Iraq.) Which is why my statements included "In America...etc." and "Not sure how Iraqi law interprets this". Just commenting. I didn't mean to piss off all the staunchly anti-Bush people, although now I may have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderWiggin Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Yes, and some definitions of it don't say anything about what kind of weapon it has to be, so long as it's a weapon, which I think is exactly what these shoes were turned into since he launched two of them at someone's face. Let me help you. Try fbi.gov: An unlawful attack by one person upon another for the purpose of inflicting severe or aggravated bodily injury. This type of assault is usually accompanied by the use of a weapon or by other means likely to produce death or great bodily harm. Pay special attention to "severe" bodily injury and means likely to produce "great bodily harm." (i.e. not shoes.) Which is why my statements included "In America...etc." and "Not sure how Iraqi law interprets this". So what you're saying is your posts actually had no relevance to....anything? Oh. Just commenting. I didn't mean to piss off all the staunchly anti-Bush people, although now I may have. Oh, I'm just pissed off at your inaccuracy, not at your pro-bush rhetoric. _EW_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GarfieldJL Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 It'd only of been assault if he had hit him, besides the Secret Service really weren't much better than Saddam's guys - they beat the guy up so badly he left a trail of blood. I have to agree with JM, that if Bush is so pro-freedom of speech he should of let the journalist stay in for the rest of the meeting and request no charges be pressed. In this case, it is still assault or attempted assault, the fact the man had bad aim or under-estimated the President's reflexes is irrelevant. Oh and the guy did hit someone else with a shoe, so he can be up on assault charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderWiggin Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Oh and the guy did hit someone else with a shoe, so he can be up on assault charges. Assuming Iraqi law is anything like US law _EW_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 C'mon EW, American law is the benchmark against which all foreign laws must be measured against. You should know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderWiggin Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 C'mon EW, American law is the benchmark against which all foreign laws must be measured against. You should know that. Aww **** how could I forget that? _EW_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasraLantill Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Thought the benchmark thing was based on English Common Law, Doc? Still, to throw one shoe without getting jumped by Presidential Secret Service is believable. But to throw two? Someone wasn't doing their job. (Remember Richard Reid and his shoe bomb caper? S.S. guys should be well briefed on the danger of shoes. ) But hats off to the puppeteer behind Bush. Amazing reaction times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mimartin Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 http://sockandawe.com tk, I’m expremely disappointed in you. Throwing shoes at the President of the United States is not a laughing matter. The President deserves the world’s utmost respect and even his image should be treated with respect and dignity. Goodnight and God Bless. Did I get though that with a straight face? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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