gos Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 But doesn't it go with the "half ass" joke picture? i didn't mean that in the picture in the picture "this is a half ass joke" i am talking about making guybrush like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Mania Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Great! BUT: You do realize that the low-res Guybrush is squashed, right? (the game was at 320x200, but stretched to a 4:3 resolution when displayed) If you use him as a guide you have to stretch him by 120% vertically. Other than that: Fantastic! How's this? I stretched him 120% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert Posted July 2, 2009 Author Share Posted July 2, 2009 I did it as well in Photoshop... his face gets so long But it does look better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Mania Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 I did it as well in Photoshop... his face gets so long It would be the exact same if you stretch the original sprite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert Posted July 2, 2009 Author Share Posted July 2, 2009 It would be the exact same if you stretch the original sprite. Yeah, well, but the pixel do not really define CLEARLY where his chinline is placed... uhm... yeah. And no, I'm not making up excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Mania Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Yeah, well, but the pixel do not really define CLEARLY where his chinline is placed... uhm... yeah. And no, I'm not making up excuses. Shortened his beard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert Posted July 2, 2009 Author Share Posted July 2, 2009 Better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy.brush Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Laserschwert: Just a quick question: I played DOTT last night again and there is a pretty good reference for a perfect circle in it (a good way to see if your aspect ratio is off) It's the hamster wheel generator screen. So I did what I always do before playing: I hit FULLSCREEN and activated the 640x400->640x480 aspect ratio correction but now the hamster wheel was too thin! It only made a perfect circle when I didn't use the correction. I played on a laptop with 1280x800 resolution so I think AR correction should be on, but still. It looked wrong. So either the artists back in the day screwed up or something is wrong here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert Posted July 3, 2009 Author Share Posted July 3, 2009 But 320x200 is a 16:10 format (which should fill your 16:10 laptop at 1280x800). Back then though monitors were all 4:3... so 320x200 had to be stretched (technically to 320x240). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy.brush Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 I thought it was backwards: The pixels on the screens were rectangular so 320x200 on an Amiga screen in 1990 looked like 320x240 on a 1:1 pixel screen of today. So in order to get the correct aspect ratio I still have to activate the 640x400->640x480 correction. At least in the Monkey Island games I can definitely notice the characters being too fat without it. I just got curious when i noticed that DOTT looked wrong with it activated. Maybe i can get a screen up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert Posted July 3, 2009 Author Share Posted July 3, 2009 I'd just assume that they didn't think about the pixel aspect ratio when painting the backgrounds. Or did they run with black bars back then? I honestly don't remember... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy.brush Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 here is a quick screenshot comparison: I checked this on a 1280x800 and 1920x1200 LCD. Both seem to have square pixel ARs 1:1 So it should be stretched to 640x480 but it just doesn't look right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishmile Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 I am NOT an animator so don't judge it too harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Looks very good! For not an animator at least. No really, very nice work. Hopefully we will see something similar in action in a MI2: SE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parabolee Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Pretty cool irishsmile. He's a bit off, but as you say your not an animator. I preferred your first version of GB though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishmile Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Yeah he is sort of jerky..... but truth be told that is the first animation I have ever done... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parabolee Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Pretty good for a first attempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fealiks Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 You should try using the CMI sprite set rather than MI2 as a reference. Still good though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple_tentacle_ Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 I think they' try a Maniac Mansion SE, Zak and Loom first and in the meantime start selling a new MI collection including the SE. It's a bit like with Sierra VGA remakes from the early 90s. There is already a deluxe wich is basicly there se. Check out the differences. Maniac Mansion: Maniac Mansion Deluxe: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s-island Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 With all the weird angles in DOTT, I wouldn't expect a hamster wheel to be a perfect circle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicallyInspired Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 It's the same way for The Dig, though. The moon in the introduction is oval shaped and the LucasArts logo is noticeably stretched vertically when using aspect ratio correction. I think at some point (perhaps DOTT?) LucasArts game designers decided that 320x200 was now a square-pixel 16:10 ratio with black bars on the top and bottom instead of a 4:3 non-square pixel aspect ratio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s-island Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Then why aren't the games displayed in that aspect ratio when run natively in DOS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPeel2001 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Yeah, that's not possible, I don't think. Your monitor would have just stretched it to 4:3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicallyInspired Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 CRTs monitors can stretch and squish the image vertically and horizontally. That's how. This was before LCD monitors were in wide-spread use. I actually still use a CRT monitor. I like my pixels sharp in whatever resolution I'm running in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPeel2001 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 I'm perfectly aware of how CRT monitors work...! Your monitor was always 4:3, though, and unless you altered the setting every time you went into a game, it would be stretched to 4:3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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