MysticSpade Posted September 10, 2002 Share Posted September 10, 2002 i know i'm gonna catch alot of flack from this but i'm surprised that this kind of thing didn't happen sooner. we (USA) walk around like we are THE **** and ppl see that if they can bring us down they will be higher on the food chain. the USA throws our advancements in the faces of other countries, i'm just surprised it took this long for them to really retalliate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatalStrike Posted September 10, 2002 Share Posted September 10, 2002 Originally posted by acdcfanbill Yes, everyone cool down a bit, if you want to come here to remiber the date, please do so, but dont make menacing comments to others. Thank you... I apologize to those of you who shouldn't have to see me going off on people in this thread, but if you lost people you knew in those attacks and where there to see them take place, you would get pretty angry too. Once again sorry for the pissed off words, but if I were the admins here I would remove the mindless posts or I would expect MANY more pissed off comments. This is a sore spot for many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XERXES Posted September 10, 2002 Share Posted September 10, 2002 i find it ironic that it takes an event like this to really spark the patriotic-ness of americans. You didnt see people waving the american flag EVERYWHERE until after the 11th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdcfanbill Posted September 10, 2002 Share Posted September 10, 2002 perhaps you just did not notice them XERXES? In my small home town of 300 people, there were probably 50-60 flags hanging in town. after 9-11 im sure it jumped to well over a hundred, but its settled down a bit again. many people hang them out, some just dont notice til their eyes are opened for them.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted September 10, 2002 Share Posted September 10, 2002 Originally posted by FatalStrike People died from all walks of life. Rich, poor, foreign, American, and heros. While yes some of them might not care too much for the innocent life that was accidently taken in Afghanistan, many of them would have. But I can tell you for sure that none of them would have been dancing in the streets. Afghanistan is better today then when our bombs started dropping. The US has made Afghanistan free. There people had the joy of turing on a radio. Their women were able to step into the street for the first time in years. The could dance and be happy again. The attacks were a big deal because it showed that there is evil in the world that seeks to spread and take more and more innocent life simply because our way of life differs from the tyranny and torture they seek to impose. The fact that you would make a statement like like tells me that your life has been far to easy, and you take everything you have for granted. If this US bombed every government in the middle east (with very few exceptions) they would all be better for it. These people do NOT know the freedom we enjoy, and live only to suffer and make their princes and tyrants rich. Taking down their governments and making them free would be a blessing. You should be ashamed of what you wrote and I hope you live to regret your naive and ignorant words. Man,you think ONE thing bad about the 9-11 praising and you get flamed and called naive. But,how do you know what is evil and what is not? It's an opinion. You think of them as evil,they think of you as evil. Now I dont think thier murder is good,it is VERY bad. But we are doing the same. And think of this- Sure,some of them might be free,but the ones who died arent-and we are a stronger country and have stuck together- but those who died havent gotten that. And why didnt we send in the rangers and our army,instead of bombing the afganies? it would have a 1 soldier:10 or 100 afganie ratio saved. So they decided it was better for us to bomb the citizens,instead of us losing a few more men and them having alot more citizens saved... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted September 10, 2002 Share Posted September 10, 2002 This thread is about remembering 9-11, not what do you think about 9-11. so, let's keep the comments like the ones earleir to ourselves, or start a debate-thread on it. Don't crap-up this nice man's thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatalStrike Posted September 10, 2002 Share Posted September 10, 2002 Originally posted by MysticSpade i know i'm gonna catch alot of flack from this but i'm surprised that this kind of thing didn't happen sooner. we (USA) walk around like we are THE **** and ppl see that if they can bring us down they will be higher on the food chain. the USA throws our advancements in the faces of other countries, i'm just surprised it took this long for them to really retalliate. I agree with your post, except for the word "retalliate." We did nothing to Osama except for funding his battle for freedom against the the Soviet union. We helped him and he turned on us because we were Christians and he wanted us out of the Muslim world. I am not surprised we were attacked. People who suffer need someone to blame, and they make it easy for a lunatic to tell them their suffering is our fault. They could have everything we have if they would rise up against tyranny and take back their freedom as all countries have had to in their history. All they are doing is faulting someone else for what their own people do to them. I wish everyone of them could be free and happy, it is really saddening to know that they suffer while I am free. But it is they who have to fight for their freedom, not us, because even now certain warlords seek to become dictators in Afghanistan. If the people do not rise against these influences then they will lose their freedom as soon as American troops pull out. We can't keep them free, that is something they must do on their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdcfanbill Posted September 10, 2002 Share Posted September 10, 2002 on-topic or closed, please choose... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted September 10, 2002 Share Posted September 10, 2002 Originally posted by obi-wan13 This thread is about remembering 9-11, not what do you think about 9-11. so, let's keep the comments like the ones earleir to ourselves, or start a debate-thread on it. Don't crap-up this nice man's thread. I didnt know that because I am naive... Yeah I misunderstood the title. Sorry. Now let's stop this bull**** and just go on and remembering the victims..BTW I almost cried at the site. My first post was a little naive I admit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatalStrike Posted September 10, 2002 Share Posted September 10, 2002 Originally posted by Tyrion Man,you think ONE thing bad about the 9-11 praising and you get flamed and called naive. But,how do you know what is evil and what is not? It's an opinion. You think of them as evil,they think of you as evil. Now I dont think thier murder is good,it is VERY bad. But we are doing the same. And think of this- Sure,some of them might be free,but the ones who died arent-and we are a stronger country and have stuck together- but those who died havent gotten that. And why didnt we send in the rangers and our army,instead of bombing the afganies? it would have a 1 soldier:10 or 100 afganie ratio saved. So they decided it was better for us to bomb the citizens,instead of us losing a few more men and them having alot more citizens saved... I started another thread for you to flaunt your opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted September 10, 2002 Share Posted September 10, 2002 Originally posted by FatalStrike Did you see what happened when the Soviet Union Took that approach? They LOST THE WAR!! I don't mean this as an insult but it seems you are very young, you will learn in time the difference between dieing at the hands of a pointless act of terror and dieing in the fight for your people freedom. Sigh... America has one of the best army's in the world. They are way better now,tactically and in strength. They are about 3 or 4 times better than the soviet union was at that time,with the terrorists having about the same strength as before. America could win the war with just slowy taking them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockV1.89 Posted September 10, 2002 Share Posted September 10, 2002 >sigh< I would just close it anyway.... or, wait another hour or so, then close it. It's accomplished its purpose, and people can still visit the site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedragon Posted September 10, 2002 Share Posted September 10, 2002 Originally posted by XERXES i find it ironic that it takes an event like this to really spark the patriotic-ness of americans. You didnt see people waving the american flag EVERYWHERE until after the 11th. i always had three flags waveing outside my house. the confederate battle flag the southcarolina (dont tread on me) flag and a big stars and bars right there in the middle. dont focus on minoritys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Warrior Posted September 10, 2002 Share Posted September 10, 2002 Man it seems hard to believe that this happened a year ago now, I watched the second plane hit live on tv and it was the single most shocking thing I've ever seen, even here in the UK things just sort of ground to a halt. I really was scared. It may sound odd but I thought that perhaps this devastating attack would perhaps knock some sense into world leaders and perhaps make them think twice about war and such. I must say it's not sorrow that I feel as such for the families and victims its more like pity for the entire human race, it makes it hard to imagine that the world will ever end up peaceful. The whole thing troubles me deeply, regardless of who the victims are or what nationality they are. Loss of life for such ridiculous motives is a tragedy for everyone with a soul inside them. I wish that people could just realize that we should all be pulling together as a global community, why should religion be a basis for hate and killings, the fact that people have different beliefs, cultures and values is what makes us individuals and hence it makes the world an interesting place to be. To sum up the only dangerous thing in my eyes is extremism, which is ultimately the inability to tolerate others beliefs, why fear diversity it should be embraced. I hope we have at least learnt from 11th september and that it does make us all think hard about the value of human life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted September 10, 2002 Share Posted September 10, 2002 Originally posted by Jah Warrior Man it seems hard to believe that this happened a year ago now, I watched the second plane hit live on tv and it was the single most shocking thing I've ever seen, even here in the UK things just sort of ground to a halt. I really was scared. It may sound odd but I thought that perhaps this devastating attack would perhaps knock some sense into world leaders and perhaps make them think twice about war and such. I must say it's not sorrow that I feel as such for the families and victims its more like pity for the entire human race, it makes it hard to imagine that the world will ever end up peaceful. The whole thing troubles me deeply, regardless of who the victims are or what nationality they are. Loss of life for such ridiculous motives is a tragedy for everyone with a soul inside them. I wish that people could just realize that we should all be pulling together as a global community, why should religion be a basis for hate and killings, the fact that people have different beliefs, cultures and values is what makes us individuals and hence it makes the world an interesting place to be. To sum up the only dangerous thing in my eyes is extremism, which is ultimately the inability to tolerate others beliefs, why fear diversity it should be embraced. I hope we have at least learnt from 11th september and that it does make us all think hard about the value of human life. As I heard before,religion isnt bad,religions are bad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivy Posted September 11, 2002 Share Posted September 11, 2002 i was in new york two months before september 11th, looking up at the trade centre with amazement. when i heard that a plane had crash into one of them, it was very hard to believe. i was then watching it live on t.v as the second plane hit and i was filled with shock. when they came down I realised I was seeing thousands of innocent people die and it was a feeling that I won’t forget. My deepest sympathies and thoughts go the families that lost loved ones and the survivors of that catastrophic event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal_da_Darth Posted September 11, 2002 Share Posted September 11, 2002 Originally posted by JM Qui-Gon Jinn Hey, I'm just realistic Say all you want, but 40 000 dead is worse than 3000 dead, but still people are doing nothing about the 40 000 deaths He has a point, seriously. Still, September 11th is not something that I'll forget any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Knight Posted September 11, 2002 Share Posted September 11, 2002 that was a great little movie, thanks for posting that i don't even want to talk about qui jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Groovy Posted September 11, 2002 Share Posted September 11, 2002 Originally posted by JM Qui-Gon Jinn Now THAT was boring! I didn't even watch it all, really, how can anyone do? For me, 9/11 is like ok it's sad but get over it people. People cry for serveral years for 3000 people that dies, but forgets the 40000 people in the US that dies each year just because some stupid politicians have made guns legal Everyone is going to die sooner or later anyway...terrible things happen all the time...get over it.... I would personally like to see you tell the families of those 3,000 people, the fire fighters and emergeancy personnell who have been diagnosed with post 9/11 disorders, President Bush, The governer of New York, The survivors from the pentagon, the troops who fought the Al-Queda, and the millions of viewers across the nation who washed in shock as those towers fell to the earth to just "get over it". 9/11 was not a statistic, it was the worst tragedy in history. Please, JM Qui-Gon Jinn, just tell me you posted that for shock value to start a flame war and then, maybe I will be able to forget that you said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psionic Jedi Posted September 11, 2002 Share Posted September 11, 2002 I'm wearing my FDNY shirt tommorow. "All gave some, Some gave all" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratmjedi Posted September 11, 2002 Share Posted September 11, 2002 I'm going to be in my ROTC uniform tomorrow. We're going to have a ceromony in the morning. It's is going to be a sad day. I remember all the word's that my friends said when we were watching it the ROTC room. Now they are in the Military and ready to go to the front lines if need be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absurd Posted September 11, 2002 Author Share Posted September 11, 2002 It's officially the 11th now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leXX Posted September 11, 2002 Share Posted September 11, 2002 I received a phone call from my mum that morning. She said "turn to bbc1 quick, a plane crashed into the world trade center towers". I turned over to see one of the towers on fire and my first thoughts were it was just a byplane or something, nothing major. Before I had time to digest that news, I watched live as the second plane crashed into the second building. I was in total disbelief as I realised this was a Jumbo jet and hundreds of lives had just been lost! All I could think was "Oh my God" and the tears started to roll down my face, I had just witnessed a disaster. The news then started to come in about it being a terrorist attack and I realised I had just witnessed the murder of hundreds of people. Then, beyond all comprehension of reality, I saw the first tower crumble before my very eyes. I could not control my emotions when the second tower collapsed. My husband worked for Enron at the time and as you may or may not know, Enron had thier head office based at the top of one of the towers. Thousands of Enron staff lost their jobs including my husband when Enron went bankrupt. Christmas that year was very hard for us as he was out of a job. Luckily now, he is in a great job with Deutsche Bank and is on more money. September 11th 2001 will always have a place in my heart and I feel so very deeply for those killed and affected by that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camus Posted September 11, 2002 Share Posted September 11, 2002 Originally posted by JM Qui-Gon Jinn People cry for serveral years for 3000 people that dies, but forgets the 40000 people in the US that dies each year just because some stupid politicians have made guns legal Okay... I would like to know where in the hell you get your USA statistics... I dont think its possable for 40,000 to die in the USA alone in one year... If it did we would be lossing a good portion of US citizans at every year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted September 11, 2002 Share Posted September 11, 2002 Originally posted by Camus Okay... I would like to know where in the hell you get your USA statistics... I dont think its possable for 40,000 to die in the USA alone in one year... If it did we would be lossing a good portion of US citizans at every year... You don't think 40,000 dies in the US in one year? If they *didn't* die, you'd have a severe population problem right about now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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