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Mojo: Stressing out Ron Gilbert since ‘97.

Love how the thread became „Sorry I was rude 13 years ago, Jake“. ❤️ (I don‘t remember my behavior from back then. Don’t know if I wanna look. How did y‘all find your old posts anyway? Internet archive?)

The voodoo lady said SHE helped LeChuck escape from the ice! (this didnt happen)

While I've been planning to give Peter Chan's Star Wars DOTT artwork a make-over at some point, LRG's announcement of DOTT Remastered somehow put this on the fast lane. I wasn't really convinced by the poster they decided to include, so I got down to business, planning to offer them a new print-ready version of the art as an option. How could they say no to that? Well, while LRG seemed to be interested, Disney ultimately wasn't. So, here's the result of this effort, adding a much-needed improvement over my old version, both in terms of colors and detail. No more artficial brush strokes and oversharpened edges to suggest detail. I even separated the color channels of the scan to fix the severe alignment issues the Adventurer print suffered from, removing the color fringes and blurry edges caused by that. A few comparisons (at 70% size, enough to show the differences):

The first half hour of KotCS was superb. It went downhill once they left for South America.

Oh man, so: I enjoyed Crystal Skull a lot back then. But I remember liking it because I didn‘t want to dislike it. I defended it mostly because hating on it bummed me out. I should watch it again, it‘s been ages. I do like the fridge though, it‘s so outrageous it makes me happy they went for it. I especially liked the end image, Indy looking at the mushroom cloud. Talking about realism bores me to death.

Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis though 😎

Looks like IGN is doing a Monkey Island week it seems

Meanwhile, while you were all jumping in the hype train in the Telltale forums, I was still a kid, learning to speak english thanks to Tales of Monkey Island, because it was the first game that didn't have an italian dub, and no subtitles, but I still needed to play. I always wondered how come it didn't even have italian for the subtitles, was it a decision in Telltale? I remember that Sam and Max season 1 had different languages for subtitles (even though there were some errors with the italian translation), but I think that for season 2 onwards was only english(?)

The fridge scene is just as improbable as the jumping out of a plane in a lifeboat… and I love it! I also really like the image of that tired, grizzly Indiana Jones running through the pastel tinted , happy 50’s neighbourhood! I actually think the beginning of the movie is pretty decent, even though it has it’s flaws. It’s the end when it really get’s sloppy. I do have the tendency to skip this one when I do a rewatch of every Indy movie. I think that says enough.

I have nothing to apologise for, Jake. I was a lurker. . The Telltale forums are still around and active. There's a huge thread of five people asking for Minecraft Story Mode 3 and I am fascinated by the people so in love with Minecraft Story Mode. I'm too old to relate I guess. The Telltale TOMI forum isn't even closed, people just aren't using it. They have their own RTMI thread, even! It has eight posts and hasn't seen a new one since May.

People who hate on the fridge are 100% wrong. It is stupid but it's good. Its the actual fun part of that scene. People hating on (and fixating on, and memeifying) that fridge scene was actually one of the tangible moments where I realized my taste was fracturing from a bunch of people I knew, and where I felt like memes were starting to overpower peoples actual personal opinions. This is to say: that is an early moment I realized I was getting old. (I think that is a bad movie, though, to be clear!)

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I found my old TellTale account recently and couldn't understand why all my posts were about a missing 5th game. Now I get it. Sorry as well, Jake! Schools and colleges will definitely close. Not sure if it'll be a Christmas-style shops-closed bank holiday or just a regular one where everything's open until 8pm. Either way, I get the day off work to play ReMI in my pyjamas... as a mark of respect.

Uk fans, Bank Holiday has been approved on the 19th of September. Not sure if schools and colleges will close.

Guys, we've solved it. When Ron Gilbert says he doesn't think of this as Monkey Island 3a or Monkey Island 6, what he ACTUALLY MEANS is that we fans are neglecting the game between Escape and Tales. Return is therefore Monkey Island 5a or Monkey Island 7.

There was a brief window towards the end of TLJ, where the dreadnought stad destroyer is coming apart, and Finn finds himself about to face Phasma, and then Phasma gets injured but doesn’t quite die. In that moment for just a second I thought Finn was going to save Phasma’s life and pull her into a ship. I still wish that had happened. I want an alternate universe where Finn, Rose, and Phasma barely escape that ship explosion and then get knocked into deep space together, and have to spend act 1 of the next movie getting back to our heroes. After two movies, Fin could have faced his stormtrooper past head on, Rose could have had a way harder target to test her beliefs against, and you could actually do scenes where Gwendola Christie takes her helmet off and gets to act! Plus I like awkward road trip stories, and the three of them crammed into some tiny ship they barely made it onto before the destroyer exploded seems fun.

I loved that show as a kid, and rewatched it when it was put out on DVD and was amazed at how much of a flat nothing it was. It didn't help that they all got re-edited from short frame stories told out of order into boring hours-long movies with no breaks, but I don't think preserving the original format would have really saved anything either.

You may have misread me: I meant there were some of those people within LucasFilm itself, not referring to the fan community. Fans are welcome to be whatever they want, including huge lore heads! I welcome it all. (I read the heir to the empire trilogy and played most of the games, but didn’t get much deeper than that. Wore out my VHS copies of the movies and made a ton of lightsaber battle movies with my friends in the mid 90s though.)

Oh, I am wounded! Wounded! 🤣 This is where I was in the early 2000s, when a lot of you (I think) were here on mojo or other forums. The worlds of Timothy Zahn and LucasArts video games. I guess not all LucasArts adventure fans were necessarily LucasArts Star Wars fans. You misunderstand me. When I saw Rey speaking wookiee language, I just figured there were other wookiees on the planet she interacted with. Something like that seemed less absurd than studying an old iImperial flight simulator that included language tutorials. Just an opinion, but that's what I meant.

That's how it was before, though. After Episode III, any new book etc. would try to factor in the full EU. There were contradictions, but I daresay about the sane number as we have today...

Everything is ridiculous in Star Wars, though: My phone can talk English, so why can't R2D2? Why did didn't they change Luke's last name if he was supposed to be in hiding from his father... Anakin Skywalker? And why hide him with relatives?? And why does Obi-Wan, who fought endless Sith lords not know that "Darth" is a title, and keep using it as a first name? And why didn't Darth Vader sense that Leia was his daughter while he was torturing her to get the location of the rebel base out of her? Amongst all that, I personally don't find Rey learning Wookieish to be so absurd. The galaxy was an absurd place a long time ago...

Could you not still see things this way, with Episodes I-IX being the nine movies treated as unassailable films? There are a handful of books and comics that take place during this time period, including novelizations of the films themselves. My understanding is that they often contradict whatcthe films actually gave us. So can you not choose the trilogy films to supercede the books/games/comics/shows/non-trilogy films, when these contradictions happen? Example: the new expanded universe says that yhe reason Rey speaks Shyriiwook wookiee language is because she found an old Imperial ship with language tutorials on it, and she learned the language that way. I find this explanation ridiculous. If one were the type to ignore the old EU and to only pay attention to film episodes I-VI, then what is stopping one from ignoring the new EU and only paying attention to film episodes I-IX? Other example: Coca-Cola and Sprite are now canon in the Star Wars new EU. They aren't in the I-IX films. Can't we therefore choose to pretend they aren't actually in the universe?

Telltale was cheap 🤷‍♂️ They must have decided that since Italian was the smallest playerbase out of the standard EFIGS translation list (English French Italian German Spanish) they could save some money by not paying for it. Of course, that cheap out means fewer Italians will buy it so it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. I don’t really understand it, but it’s how a lot of decisions were made.

I think it went downhill after the Russian camp. And the first half hour wasn’t that superb… I didn’t feel a thing when “ol’ buddy, ol’ pal” Mac betrayed Indy. Totally useless beginning of a totally useless arc.

Biggest liars of the Monkey Island franchise ranked: Galeb The Voodoo Lady

Back then I really, really hated it. Much more than it deserved. Nowadays, I’m much cooler with it. It’s a fun adventure movie. With a lot of flaws, sure, but it’s totally okay. Never understood the big problem with the fridge though. It's a bit over the top, maybe, and didn’t feel like Indy. But in the end, the movie had bigger problems than this scene. And it’s kind of fun to watch.

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The Telltale Forums are still up! I think most of the old forums are archived, but you can still go read all the old Monkey Island content if you want. When you played Escape did it bug you that we never learned how he escaped the ice in the roller coaster?* *did it actually explain this and I forgot?

I was more of a lurker back then, but I do recall being immensely disappointed that we weren't going to find out how LeChuck's ego was repaired after being blasted by the Ultimate Insult in Escape. Younger me cared way more about these kinda things than I do now.

Not thaaaat much worse than (*holdingmybreath*) Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

Though there are similarities to the EU, it’s absolutely not the same. The EU deliberately existed on a different plane from the films. The old rule was, if a new movie comes up that invalidates EU, so be it: that part of the EU doesn’t matter. That happened multiple times over the years, creating little funky contradictions. (Not to mention the movies themselves were created one after another, with characters, locations, and concepts introduced just to serve the needs of the movie, and no real thought to what else could happen with them, until after the dust had settled.) The different book series and comics and stuff also didn’t all fully hinge on each other, and weren’t incentivized to promote each other. And, a lot of the EU was fanciful “what ifs,” about strange pockets of the universe, or characters or eras we had never seen before. Their goal was often to make the universe bigger. This made the whole EU feel “opt in.” If there were parts you liked, you could enjoy that and ignore the rest. The gap in canon priority between the films and the EU also, at least for me, created a nice cushion of air where my imagination could slot in. "I wonder what happened here?" could be met just fine with my own answer. Now there are no tiers of canon, it's all one thing. And now the Star Wars universe is undeniably built with an aim for getting you to engage with the other parts of it, to create feelings of missing out when things show up cross media that you don't understand. It's the feeling of reading a superhero comic where the asterisk shows up on a line of dialog and tells you "see Fantastic Four #203": The Dark Saber showing up at the end of Mandalorian, or walk-on roles in Rogue One by characters from the animated TV shows. The whole thing is now entirely about stitching the corners together, filling in gaps in space and time in the lore. It means that any character who ever shows up, almost definitely already has a backstory locked in, a spinoff series or comic planned, where you will be told exactly what happens to them. To me that makes it all seem SMALLER. Nothing is expanding Star Wars outward anymore, it’s all looking in on itself. And there's no real room for you to imagine the rest of the universe for yourself, instead fans are asked to marvel at the web being woven for them.

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“When’s the next episode” posts were a part of life, no harm in it. I eventually started making official threads for that sort of thing before the community could, so it wouldn’t diffuse out across the whole board.

I have tried my hand at making a few for myself though they are not great since I rely on whatever I find over the internet which is not that good, so far I made the three Alone in the Dark and Kyrandia 3 but they are far from perfect (though they look great on print ;P). I also recently made a small amount of posters from some of the old SSI and D&D games I found the art of at a really nice quality so I made them for the Eye of the Beholder 1-3 games, Al-Qadim, Pool of Radiance and 2 for Ravenloft and I really like how they came out. I mostly wanted to display the original art and not the cropped versions used on some of the covers since I loved the art but those covers were kind of ugly, but I made a frame to simulate the feel of the original box a bit with the titles (some with a different font) and I added the much needed artist credits. You can find them here if you are interested in those: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Sq-jQPewL6O9f9q2IeccjkpPuTulB4Px?usp=sharing This is how they look if you don't want to browse the link.

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Those are all very unlikely titles for Indy 5.

Thanks for answering that's always been a massive 'what if?' For me. Sweet, I work at a College so I've been holding my breath on whether I'd actually get the day off or not.

There is literally nothing coming up in cinemas that excites me. Not a single movie I am looking forward to. Except for Indy.

Oh my god the brief fan obsession with “Tales is Monkey Island 6 and there is a secret 5th game” during the lead up to Tales drove me absolutely insane. All we wanted to say was, the characters had some adventures between Escape and now, to give the world some time to reset and heal. 2, 3, and 4 seemed to have taken place back to back to back, and it was clearly more weight than the MI universe could really bear and everything was starting to get really creaky, so we wanted to give the universe a break. Oh well. People REALLY don’t like it when there are holes in canon, I guess. (I LOVE holes in canon, that’s where my imagination as a fan can have a home in the work, a bunch of weirdly shaped gaps and grooves to run my mind over, but I feel like I’m increasingly in the minority with that preference.) If it helps, I can finally tell you as one of the designers on the game that Tales is Monkey Island 5.

I admit i definitley poured fuel on that fire back in the day 😅 Although my issue with it was slightly different. I took it as Lucasarts wanted to reserve the right make their own Monkey Island 5 later, and were saying that Tales didn't count as a numbered entry and was merely a mini series or spin off. This rubbed me the wrong way and i wanted them to confirm Tales as a 5th entry. I get what the developers were trying to do, to build on the lore and feel like Guybrush never stopped adventuring during the hiatus. Its weird to me though like fictional Red Dwarf series ix or the missing Liesure Suit Larry.

Me watching Indiana Jones. (Seriously, though, they're impossible to sit through.)

I guess my problem with the sequels is that most of the characters don't develop in particularly satisfying ways between movies. I like all the characters pretty well in TFA, and wanted to see them have another adventure. I think the characterisation of Poe and Finn is pretty thin, though, and this becomes a problem in later films. In TLJ, the scenes with Rey, Luke and Kylo are strong, and I also like the stuff with Poe as a deconstruction of the 'cocky rebel' trope. On the other hand, Finn's plot is weird. He doesn't seem like the same character as in the previous movie. ROS fails to do anything with the characters that felt meaningful to me, and doesn't pay off the interesting parts of TLJ. Rose could have been the 'Lando' of this trilogy, but she gets sidelined, which retroactively makes Finn's plot in TJI feel even more extraneous. Snoke being dispatched should have led to us seeing what would happen if Kylo took on an Emperor-like role, but they cart out Emperor instead, so we once again see Kylo being subservient to another Sith lord. Ho hum. I actually think Palpetine himself was creepy in a fun way, but he doesn't have a meaningful connection to the remaining characters. Having Rey be his granddaughter I guess is an attempt to give some purpose to his return, but there's no emotional heft to it, and it feels like a retcon. I don't really remember what Rey, Poe or Finn do in this film, except that they go on a mission that is boring. I think what they should have done with ROS is have a big time jump. TLJ had a real 'last adventure' feel to me, and I would have liked to have seen Episode 9 jump ahead like 10 or 15 years. That which would have mirrored the jump between Episode 1 and Episode 2, and let the first and last episodes in the saga feel like bookends. More importantly, it would have let us see what happens to these characters after they've processed the deaths and sacrifices of the OT characters, and how they shape the world in their absence. You could have had Kylo as a supreme bad guy (or, I dunno, a repentant outcast), and Rey mentoring some kind of new Jedi academy. Maybe Finn and Rose have a family. Maybe Poe's moved on to become a bureaucrat and hates it. Maybe Chewbacca is king of the Republic! Anything, just advance the characters in an interesting way.

Harry Potter and the Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom I don‘t know Baron, doesn‘t work for me.