Diego Varen Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Due to the success of my Sion Vs Nihilus Thread, I've decided to do a Malak Vs Traya Thread. Who do you prefer? I prefer Traya, since I found her character a lot more evil and she managed to calculate everything, but Malak was just some cyborg who laughed and was defeated easier than Traya (For me). Discuss here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Skywalker Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Traya, hands down. Malak was just a crude and brute Dark Jedi-wannabe, he would never be like Revan, such a strategist and great military leader. Revan was all that because of Traya's teachings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentScope001 Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Same with me. Besides, Malak and Sion share much similarites, and Traya was able to enslave Sion on Malachor V (possibly by using the Dominate Mind Power). So, I'd assume Malak too would become Traya's slave. Malak had no plan other than to crack the Republic wide open using the Star Forge. Traya had no superweapon, but was able to destroy the Jedi Order by helping to establish the Sith Assisans and the Shadow War. Traya also was able to contorl you, the player, throughout the game...In K2, Darth Traya won and accomplished her goals (training the Exile, by manliputing her)...In K1, Malak is, in his own words, "nothing". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jediphile Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Definitely Traya. After all, she is just about the best character in both games, so she'll beat anyone, and certainly Malak, who is a very cliché black-hat, moustache-twirling villain... and not in a good way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSI Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Malak. I prefer Malak because he's not that evil. Well, I don't like Traya because she manipulated us along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSR Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Malak. I prefer Malak because he's not that evil. Well, I don't like Traya because she manipulated us along. "Wipe this pathetic planet from the face of the galaxy" *cues millions of deaths* not that eveil? yeah, sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 I prefer Traya, for all of her conniving Sithiness. I also like Malak, though. Sure, he was cliche, but I liked him anyway because he was tough and ruthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ioini Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 I liked Traya's subtle DS ways then Malak's brute force. Traya just played along and waited for the right moment to strike, Malak on the other hand would just try to kill you on the spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabish Bini Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Traya because she's manipulative, which is pretty rare. And she's more evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90SK Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Traya. Her intelligence is far more stimulating than Malak's brutality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 While I do love the way Bioware portrayed Malak, Traya wins hands down. Her character was unique and something the SW universe had never seen before. It was dynamic, radical and an absolutely brilliant work by the story people. Traya for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Wan Baloney Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 I love both, but I'd have to say Malak. At least he wasn't some old lady who could die at any second! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaelastraz Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Character wise - Traya for sure. Manipulative, intelligent... Traya was an interesting character. But the final battle against Malak was way better than the final battle against Traya. Malak's duel has great music, atmosphere and style, the dialog with Malak is cool as well. Whereas Traya has some bugged lines to offer, and she's weak, just like the music sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldberry Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 In terms of who I would like to win, Malak; Because he was quite a good character and the idea that he could have been redeemed because he wasn't truely evil was a thought that always lingered in my head. In actuality, I would have to say that Traya would destroy him; if not by manipulation, then in battle with her telekenetic lightsaber combat. I simply don't like Traya's overuse of the Sith trait of manipulation, and the only way I would be more comfortable with her around is if she turned out to be Kae (But that's another topic, and then she would definately win hands down.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Architect Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Traya is hands down a better character than Malak. Heck, I think she's one of the best characters in Star Wars. Malak on the other hand is one of the worst characters in Star Wars IMO, along with Jar-Jar Binks, Zaalbar and Disciple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Devon Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Malak's a very good bad guy, but he's a complete cliche. While that's not always bad, Kreia was a much more original (and interesting) character than another Dark Lord who's going to destroy everyone. The fact that she fell from the dark side to absolute nihilism was interesting to say the least, as was how she manipulated events throughout the game to serve her own purposes. Malak was a well and good enemy, but Kreia seemed to have a much greater hand in the course of the story. That, and I think the manipulative Sith are cooler than the brutish ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSI Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 "Wipe this pathetic planet from the face of the galaxy" *cues millions of deaths* not that eveil? yeah, sure... Oh, come on...Not that evil relating to Traya. You catch what I mean? I mean Darth Traya was planning to wipe out the whole Force, compared to the Force, to destroy millions of deaths would be piece of cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Skywalker Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 But still, the Force is an essence which flows through everybody, so, say, billions of millions of people dying because of a laser cannon or so, like the Death Star's beam, would affec the Force deeply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
master jedi101 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 now both of them are pretty cool but Traya is the eviler one manipulating you ever since you awoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jediphile Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Oh, come on...Not that evil relating to Traya. You catch what I mean? I mean Darth Traya was planning to wipe out the whole Force, compared to the Force, to destroy millions of deaths would be piece of cake. So how many deaths are the preservation of the Force worth? We don't know much about the Force, so it's not such an easy comparison to make. Besides, we really should consider Kreia's motives. She hates the Force because it imposes its own will on people and decides who will live and die, and she wants to throw off that oppression and free people from its control. So is she an evil mass-murderer or a misunderstood liberator? I'm not going to claim that she's actually benevolent, because she is willing to manipulate, sacrifice and even kill others to reach her goals, but there are people who see her as such, and certainly there are extenuating circumstances to consider for her. Malak, however, just wants to blantantly kill whomever is his way pureful for the sake of his own benefit and power. Casually destroying an entire planet like that to get just one person (Bastila) demonstrates a frightful lack of concern for the lives of innocent people. Kreia on the other hand, wants to destroy the Force for the sake of those innocent people, or at least so she claims. I don't entirely trust her motives, but it is conviction on her part and not merely evil for evil's sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 I like both in that they brought different types of villains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaelastraz Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Character wise i prefer Traya. But the better duel is vs Malak. Better music, better atmosphere, better dialog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabish Bini Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 @Architect-Jar Jar and Zaalbar kick @$$. Meesa tink yousa homo. And Disciple..meh. He sucks. (Just kidding about the homo thing. I wanted to speak like Jar Jar) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Architect Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 @Architect-Jar Jar and Zaalbar kick @$$. Meesa tink yousa homo. And Disciple..meh. He sucks. (Just kidding about the homo thing. I wanted to speak like Jar Jar) Jar-Jar and Zaalbar...kick ass? Haha! Thanks for the laugh. And my reply to Jar-Jar: Me: "(Mockery) Meesa think you are retarded and you make crappy jokes. Now, since it's an established fact that the galaxy will be better off without you, you will die now." Jar-Jar: "Meesa gonna die!" *Cuts off Jar-Jar's odd looking head* Of course, I am just joking too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reven0123 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Traya, hands down. Malak was just a crude and brute Dark Jedi-wannabe, he would never be like Revan, such a strategist and great military leader. Revan was all that because of Traya's teachings. so true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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