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Ghost Newbie

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Seriously you guys, you need to lay off Obama. Every president makes stupid mistakes, bush especially

 

Wow, and people thought Bush was an idiot. Seriously, for someone tauted as being sooo smart, this looks pathetic.

 

Bold talk. Bush was the most retarded person EVER. Obama is actually trying to fix the country instead of telling everybody.

 

Go out and shop. Waste your money

 

Way to go bush, you just won the Economy Killer Award :anvil:

 

You people think Obama sucks, then you watch too much fox. They are just republican hounds. Yes you too Totenkopf. Watch MSNBC, CNN, or NBC. You will understand then

 

EDIT: Oh, and writing your speeches is actually professional. Lincoln was the most influential president in history, besides the Roosevelts and Washington

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Seriously you guys, you need to lay off Obama. Every president makes stupid mistakes, bush especially

 

In freedom of speech, provided it isn't slanderous, you can pretty much say what you want.

 

Besides I bash *every* president, republican or democrat. THE INTERNET: [serious business]

 

 

You people think Obama sucks, then you watch too much fox. They are just republican hounds. Yes you too Totenkopf.

 

There are as many rightward leaning folks as there are leftward leaning folks here in the KOTOR forums. Besides, several members posting here are not in America so they can take it with a light heart. Most of us just laugh anyways, especially here in Ahto. In Kavar's on the other hand, it's serious discussion.

 

Watch MSNBC, CNN, or NBC. You will understand then

 

I already do watch those, AND fox so that I get the whole story instead of *just* one slant OR the other.

 

MSNBC is the democrat "hound" station, so their credibility is opposite but about the same overall.

 

You know what? NONE of them tell the FULL story. But I have known this for a while b/c I almost made the mistake of going into TV broadcasting. BOTH sides are just as guilty of hyperbolizing.

 

So I choose to be an independent--as America was meant to be. I watch C-span at times and go for sources other than mainstream. Then again I don't really like to turn on the TV.

 

EDIT: Oh, and writing your speeches is actually professional. Lincoln was the most influential president in history, besides the Roosevelts and Washington

So what? It's only further proof that presidents don't write their own speeches...:indif:

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Seriously you guys, you need to lay off Obama. Every president makes stupid mistakes, bush especially

Translation: No, YOUR guy is evil, not mine!!!

Bold talk. Bush was the most retarded person EVER.

Your proof?

Obama is actually trying to fix the country instead of telling everybody.

Considering that's the basis of our economy, how is that necessarily an unintelligent suggestion?

Way to go bush, you just won the Economy Killer Award :anvil:

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You people think Obama sucks, then you watch too much fox. They are just republican hounds. Yes you too Totenkopf. Watch MSNBC, CNN, or NBC. You will understand then

Translation: I'm right and you're wrong!!!1!

 

Honest to God, Obama is not above criticism. I'm not one to hound him on every single choice he is made (I usually defend his decisions from some of my close friends), but he has made a fair amount of mistakes so far and hasn't really achieved much.

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I'm not saying he's above criticism, but people have really hounded him for every little thing, and when Bush made mistakes people just shrugged it all.

No, I'm pretty sure just as many people capped on bush for being either disingenuous and/or dumb...and for as many little things. It depends on your source, and where you're looking into, really.

 

Whilst racism undeniably exists, I wonder if people don't feed more into it by paying it so much attention. That and I think parents teaching their kids at a young age to not illogically attribute physical traits to bad personality flaws is an absolutely vital thing.

 

On a side note:

There also are people who will take advantage of you this way as well, and will use your non-racism against you. Most commonly they will employ a tactic of "straw man" fallacy closely followed by "Poisoning the well" fallacy.

I.E. you try to say something then they decide to become hostile over it and twist your words to make it sound like you were saying something that you really weren't. Then while you're off guard and defensive, they come back at you with "You're not racist, ARE YOU?!" (Done respectively as I listed off the fallacies.)

All the while they were manipulating you and pushing you around to get what they wanted, most cases to shut down debate or discussion.

 

Why is this relevant? Because I have seen people who have tried to analyze and criticize our president form a purely objective intelligent standpoint and then people (pundits) decide to do what I outlined above. So much of what you're seeing on BOTH sides of the media is also alarmist agitation to attempt to sway their viewers one way or the other.

 

It makes joking about another rather difficult under these circumstances.

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Yeah, just skimming through this thread, and my only comment is that I really can't stand people who make basely claims like "Bush was the most retarded person ever!" or who demonize Fox News with no base whatsover (Why are you people so threatened by a "silly" news corporation, anyway?) or who call anything that isn't liberal "Republican." I usually just write people off as not worth talking to right off the bat when they say foolhardy things like that, figuring that such a person is horribly ill-informed, lazy and blindly biased.

 

And that is exactly the same procedure I'm going to take here. Good job!

 

And before you call me a "Republican," let me inform you that I am an Independent.

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Hey, I watch it. It is way funnier than anything on NBC.

 

thats because they just want viewers.

 

All TV stations exaggerate info, but the most is Fox. They make a simple accident which happens everyday seem like a huge disaster. They are all drama kings. They wore black when Obama was elected, and talked him down. Obviously they were "mourning" their loss in the presidential election.

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Wow, and people thought Bush was an idiot. :lol: Seriously, for someone tauted as being sooo smart, this looks pathetic.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYrvm-vGhbc

 

Perhaps I missed something, but I really didn't see anything horrific here, everyone is human.

 

Bold talk. Bush was the most retarded person EVER. Obama is actually trying to fix the country instead of telling everybody.

 

I'm not quite sure by what definition of retard your going by, but I never saw Bush exhibit any symptoms of retardation.

 

Way to go bush, you just won the Economy Killer Award :anvil:

 

I'm pretty sure it was the bankers and greed which destroyed the economy. While I don't think Bush helped, I think world leaders seem to think they can control the world economy a lot more than they really can.

 

You people think Obama sucks, then you watch too much fox. They are just republican hounds. Yes you too Totenkopf. Watch MSNBC, CNN, or NBC. You will understand then

 

Because none of those news networks are biased?

 

Seriously you guys, you need to lay off Obama. Every president makes stupid mistakes, bush especially

 

Not biased at all? I seem to recall Bush being hounded as stupid too; he certainly was not the most articulate president the U.S. has ever had; but both sides are guilty of it, and you were guilty of beating on Bush earlier and then expect the Republicans not to give Obama a hard time; get over it, your as bad as each other!

 

 

Honest to God, Obama is not above criticism. I'm not one to hound him on every single choice he is made (I usually defend his decisions from some of my close friends), but he has made a fair amount of mistakes so far and hasn't really achieved much.

 

My 2 cents he's only had a year in office, and I think he took over possibly the most challenging first term a president has ever had. Bush did not leave a good legacy; the war in Afghanistan was not Obama's war; but pulling out renders all the troops sacrifice meaningless. Nor did Bush do America any favours over regulations (or lack of) over American mortgages.

 

I usually just write people off as not worth talking to right off the bat when they say foolhardy things like that, figuring that such a person is horribly ill-informed, lazy and blindly biased.

 

Because this isn't a stereotype either?

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