Zayne Carrick Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Since there is going to be a large Empire of the Sith, and possibly several Sith Lords, what do you think will happen to the Darth Title? Will it be used by the Emperor only? Will just a few (preferably the ones on the Dark Council) have them? Does any one else have an idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW01 Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I've thought about this too - initially entertaining the probably vain hope that we will be offered the 'Darth' honour if/when attaining the rank of Sith Lord, but thinking back to KotOR, it wasn't actually all that prevalent. Seemed to be only the Dark Lord and his apprentice that took the title. There were Darths Revan, Malak, and Bandon, but then various other high-ranking Sith keeping 'normal' names - like Jorak Uln, Uthar Wynn, etc. So my guess is that it will be the Emperor - if he is not simply referred to as 'the Emperor' or 'Emperor [whatever]' - and his apprentice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I'm worried about what the naming conventions will be like for this MMO, to be honest. I'm hoping there will be severe restrictions, up to and including the inability to name your character "Darth" anything, as well as forbidding the use of numbers or irregular capitalisation (hopefully eliminating the ability to use "leet speak" names), famous/recurring names from the franchise itself (ie Skywalker, Solo, Katarn, etc.), and so forth. People should be forced to select realistic, individual names. Dumbing down the naming conventions to target the pre-teen dumbass demographic will only serve to alienate those of us who's faith in MMOs was shattered by the likes of Runescape. -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I think there will definitely be some restrictions like you said Doc, such as only the first letter of your name can be caps, no numbers, and no famous names like in SWG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astor Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I think that Darth will be restricted to NPCs only, or at least it should be. 'Darth' is supposedly a short version of Dark Lord of the Sith - which is why there's only ever a few at a time. I don't want to see hundreds of 'Darths' running around. It'd get real old real fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltiades Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Story-wise: Either the Emperor alone or nobody at all, I think. The Sith of old didn't use the Darth title (see Marka Ragnos, Naga Sadow, Ludo Kressh, Simus, etc.), so if the Emperor continues the old tradition, he won't be using it. Gameplay-wise: I hope no player can use the title in his name. Wouldn't make sense story-wise, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKA-001 Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I'd be surprised to see the Darth title in this game at all. These Sith apparently descended from the original Sith Empire which predates the title, so I think it would make sense for it to not appear in the game. As for players being able to get the Darth title... I don't think there's any chance of LA/Bioware letting players become Darths, for the simple fact that there's no chance even 1% of said hypothetical Darth candidates would think of decent names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctrl Alt Del Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I'd be surprised to see the Darth title in this game at all. These Sith apparently descended from the original Sith Empire which predates the title, so I think it would make sense for it to not appear in the game. On the other side it wouldn't be the first time they (Bioware) would sacrifice the "realistic" for the fun factor, story and gameplay-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ztalker Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Why not link an in-game achievement too it? WoW has severak epically difficult achievements which earn you a title like Leroy* in front of your name. But you can also score 'Keeper of An'Qarai.'** *=A fun title. Leroy has a famous video on the net in which he deliberately ruins a raid by releasing 50+ dragons from their eggs instead of focussing on the main boss. You get the tile if, yes, you kill all the dragons in that room. Which is easily done if you plan it. **=World event. The whole sever was making equipment, delivering it too the warmasters before this dungeon opened. Horde and Alliance united. Eventually, one player was chosen to create the Scepter of An'Qarai and remove the seal in an epic NPC and Player fought battle. So. How to claim the Darth title. The first will make sure there will be about 20% of the people running around with it. The second example will only have 3 or 4 Darth's running around, with each world event opening. So....many Darths of almost no Darths at all? And how about the Jedi Master title? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Kraze Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Darth Sion? Darth Traya? Darth Malak, Darth Nihilus, Darth Revan? I don't see the title being out of place at all, you shouldn't get it soon as you start as a sith but through some difficult tasks it should be attainable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW01 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Darth Sion? Darth Traya? Darth Malak, Darth Nihilus, Darth Revan? I don't see the title being out of place at all, you shouldn't get it soon as you start as a sith but through some difficult tasks it should be attainable. It'ss not out of place per se, but that shows how it seems mainly to be reserved for the Dark Lord (or the Triumvirs) and their Apprentice. We already know that there is a Dark Lord, and presumably there will be an apprentice. And any quest in a game, no matter how difficult, can eventually be surmounted, whether by planning, co-operation, or consulting a walkthrough. It wouldn't necessarily prevent servers being clogged with several thousand 'Darths'. I think it should be kept for the Dark Lord and Apprentice, personally, a shame though it is. It would be nice to earn the title, but seeing everyone else with it at one time or another would ruin it a little... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Well the Sith are ruled by the emperor along with his Sith Council, so maybe instead of one apprentice they will all be 'darths', or maybe there will be an apprentice along with the council, or a member of the council. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasa7 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Ok, I agree with most of you about titles and names for TOR. I will for sure get bored being surrounded by countless Darths or Masters during the game. I totally agree that titles, such as Jedi Knight, Master, Grand Master, Sith Lord, Darth, etc., are given under a game achievement basis. Only a low percentage of total gamers running around will have a title, which is also not so crazy or unreallistic. Remember that Old Republic times were different than what we know so far. There were many Jedi and Sith, even two Jedi Councils at the same time (Coruscant and Dantooine). I am ok with a population of maybe a hundred Jedi Masters and a hundred Dark Lords at the same time, and thousands of low level ranking Jedi and Sith. Regarding names, even I know this will be really difficult to achieve, I also hope Bioware can control and restrict character naming during character creation, not only forbidding the use of famous names but also common names. I think I will drop my character and close my account if I ever God-forbid-it run into some Jedi Master John or Darth Jessica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakalwe Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 I don't want to see hundreds of 'Darths' running around. It'd get real old real fast. Darth Noob Darth Awesome Darth whatever I seriously hope they restrict it's usage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusIsGonnaOwnSatan Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 i'm hoping that the darth title will be unattainable, or near-unattainable. imo only the emperor and his apprentice (if he has one) should have it. or, being from the old sith lineage, the emperor doesnt have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayden Kered Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 If anything the title should only be given with a pre-chosen name. Like when you receive the title you will also receive a name to go with it, thus preventing names like Darth Coolio! But in my personal opinion I think that the title should only be given at the very end if the player chooses 'Sith' and if the story line allows the player to defeat the Emperor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blix Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 If anything the title should only be given with a pre-chosen name. Like when you receive the title you will also receive a name to go with it, thus preventing names like Darth Coolio! I know many MMO-types who would purchase the game purely for that option (Unfortunately I can't count myself) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakalwe Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 if the player chooses 'Sith' and if the story line allows the player to defeat the Emperor. It must! Isn't that the goal of any Sith? To become the master? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Rose Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 The first time I see a Darth Skillz, I'm quitting. I don't think players should acheive the "Darth" title because there is way to high of a chance that the titel would be abused and become an annoyance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knight 12167 Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Darth should be part of the classing system.If you are a powerful sith Darth is a class same with Jedi Master,Knight ecetera. This means you can be darth without it being in your name!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommycat Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 Honestly the Darth title being restricted doesn't worry me as much as restricting the Master title. I'm sure some jedi will be named "Baiter" just for the eventuality he will get that title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamqd Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 I Think the title should relate to your skills, as said before, and Master and Lord (rather than Darth) should be a quest you must undertake separately after maxing character, solo, like some kind of trials, which should also be implemented for Knight status earlier on in your progression. Thats one thing that sucks about Galaxies, the titles dont fit right, you dont get the title Jedi apprentice until your nearly maxed, and you get Jedi master title automatically at level 90, but in fact at level 90 your game starts, and your quest to get all the clothing, jewelry and buffs to make you worthy of that title has only just begun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAWUSS Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 I don't think players should have the title of "Darth", or it's million variants, such as D'arth, D''arth, Darrth, Ddaarrtthh, Dar'th, etc.... Of course, you're probably going to have a bunch of people claiming to be the son of Revan, Anakin's (however many greats) grandfather, or to one up that, Ann'i'kin Skyyyyyywalk'er (followed by an even worse backstory that makes flow-walking sound like a novel idea), making the concerns of "Darth" an insignifcant issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Vougalot Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 I hope this game doesn't use it because: a. this group of Sith is an extension of the remnants of the Old Sith Empire, which had nothing to do with Revan's empire and where the title did not exist, and 2. the title, while pretty cool for a while, is now becoming extremely redundant and worn thin. Although I hate Kevin J. Anderson's work, looking back now, there's something extremely cool about having these Sith characters who carry their birth names and lack the Darth title. It was cool, but now it's getting stupid. Give us something new (or revive something old in order to alleviate this now-dull trend). Though I totally expect them to cave and calls all of their Sith Darths to appease the fanboys. I've already talked about how let down I was by what they have revealed the "true Sith" to be in the other thread: basically no different whatsoever from any other Sith we have known up till now, so I'm not expecting any noble deviations to make things interesting in a non-fanboy way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredi Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 I think they will not use the title, instead they will do like on Kotor 2, turn into Sith Lord or Jedi Master. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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