Lucas: I'm doing Star Wars in 3d OMGROFL!

[Lynk Former]

I don't think 3D in its current form is very good. There's a reason why this technology was only used for specialised films such as boring documentaries you'd only see at IMAX for a long time before it became mainstream... and why they always make you take a break half way through for like 10-15 minutes.

 

Depending on the person, the 3D effect is a pretty big strain on your eyes and the FACT is that quite a lot of people will start to get eye strain by the end of the movie, and there are warnings that come with 3D TVs that tell you this... so don't go thinking you can pull off a 3D Star Wars marathon

 

 

@ The Doctor: I wouldn't say Blu-ray is a "gimmick" (which is a word that's incorrectly used these days and people think it means "useless feature" when it doesn't)... if we were to say Blu-ray was a "gimmick" then, hell, DVD was just as much of a "gimmick"...

 

What Blu-ray (and other HD media formats) has done is allowed movies to be viewed in (relatively) as close to as it would come watching the actual master copy of a movie itself. It also does away with those ye olden video and colour standards NTSC, PAL, SECAM and all that crap. We have new universal formats that work in every country around the world, which means as someone in what was a PAL region, I don't have to bitch about 24fps movies being shown in 25fps... sure, an extra frame per second faster doesn't sound like a big deal, but when you actually get down to comparing you'll definitely notice the difference.

 

So yes, Blu-ray and other HD media has done A LOT to make movies better for everyone whether they realise it or not. Of course it also depends if you have the latest TVs or not... no point investing in Blu-ray if you've still got an old standard definition CRT that you can't let go of.

 

 

 

 

 

Personally, I don't care if they do it in 3D or not... just as long as I am able to choose whether I want to watch it that way or not. I don't want **** forced onto me, I want to be able to watch **** the way I want.

[Q]

Agreed that 1080p is hardly a gimmick; it's progress.

[Ctrl Alt Del]

I'm not gonna see it, simply because I don't want to see a giant glowing sword of (+9) death flying around in either a slow paced fight or in an over-choreographed fight scene with 20+ lightsabers and 300 droids for each lightsaber on the screen.

Dude, there's no reason to watch the movies on it's original form either then.

[jrrtoken]

I think they should just redo all of the miniature-model scenes in the OT with CGI with retaining all of the original camera angles. Of course they won't, and will turn the Battle of Yavin into a claustrophobic mess like the entrance of Mos Eisley in the special edition, but am I really the only one who felt that the scant number of deployed TIE Fighters didn't compliment the supposedly immense magnitude of the Death Star?

[Ctrl Alt Del]

I think they should just redo all of the miniature-model scenes in the OT with CGI with retaining all of the original camera angles. Of course they won't, and will turn the Battle of Yavin into a claustrophobic mess like the entrance of Mos Eisley in the special edition, but am I really the only one who felt that the scant number of deployed TIE Fighters didn't compliment the supposedly immense magnitude of the Death Star?

 

Many things didn't, like why the hell was the Station just drifting around wihout a single frigate to back it up and stuff.

 

I know someone's going to use the "cocky, overconfident empire" card, but, hell. You might as well say that the small pack of TIEs that intercepted Red Squadron was only small because flight control thought that it would just a waste of Peragian fuel and that a single wing could do the job right.

[Q]

I think they should just redo all of the miniature-model scenes in the OT with CGI with retaining all of the original camera angles. Of course they won't, and will turn the Battle of Yavin into a claustrophobic mess like the entrance of Mos Eisley in the special edition, but am I really the only one who felt that the scant number of deployed TIE Fighters didn't compliment the supposedly immense magnitude of the Death Star?

You should watch Star Wars Revisited.

[Samnmax221]

I think they should just redo all of the miniature-model scenes in the OT with CGI with retaining all of the original camera angles. Of course they won't, and will turn the Battle of Yavin into a claustrophobic mess like the entrance of Mos Eisley in the special edition, but am I really the only one who felt that the scant number of deployed TIE Fighters didn't compliment the supposedly immense magnitude of the Death Star?

That's mostly what the special editions did, and they look like ****. The miniatures look great to this day.

[Astor]

I don't think 3D in its current form is very good. There's a reason why this technology was only used for specialised films such as boring documentaries you'd only see at IMAX for a long time before it became mainstream... and why they always make you take a break half way through for like 10-15 minutes.

 

Depending on the person, the 3D effect is a pretty big strain on your eyes and the FACT is that quite a lot of people will start to get eye strain by the end of the movie, and there are warnings that come with 3D TVs that tell you this... so don't go thinking you can pull off a 3D Star Wars marathon

 

I must admit that part of my reason for seeing 3D as a gimmick is that I wear glasses, which makes watching a 3D movie rather uncomfortable - I can't sit through an entire film wearing two sets of glasses, and I'll wager that is the same for many others.

 

As for replacing things from the OT with CGI, I'm already betting they completely replace Yoda with the CGI version.

[Drunkside]

Agreed that 1080p is hardly a gimmick; it's progress.

 

But the question is is it really necessary? Im not paying that much more for the discs just to get a sharper image, and im sure im not the only one.

[Q]

^Have you seen it on a decent HDTV? The difference between Blu-Ray and DVD is night and day, and it stays sharp no matter how big the screen is.

 

The discs and the players are getting cheaper by the day here in the States. More importantly, the burners and blank media are, too.

[Drunkside]

^Have you seen it on a decent HDTV? The difference between Blu-Ray and DVD is night and day, and it stays sharp no matter how big the screen is.

 

The discs and the players are getting cheaper by the day here in the States. More importantly, the burners and blank media are, too.

 

No, but im not much of a hifi freak anyway. If it sometime in the future becomes as cheap as DVD I´ll switch to it, but until that im quite happy with DVD´s. And Im not a big fan of massive screens either, when its too big you need to watch it from so far away it becomes pointless.

[Lynk Former]

No, but im not much of a hifi freak anyway. If it sometime in the future becomes as cheap as DVD I´ll switch to it, but until that im quite happy with DVD´s. And Im not a big fan of massive screens either, when its too big you need to watch it from so far away it becomes pointless.

I've already explained it pretty well in my earlier post but I guess I'll explain it again...

 

Yeah, you're right... if you don't have the latest TV and all that there's not really much point in investing in HD media... but like Q said, it's still a progression... a good progression. Picture quality is awesome for many reasons, more pixels is always better, it's also allowing movie makers to produce movies and such in formats they know will be watched by the end user. So we get EXACTLY what they want us to see, which is something that used to be impossible... also, as I said in my previous post, Blu-ray and HD media has done away with older obsolete formats and everything is now becoming universal. There are still many things to improve on over current HD media... people just don't realise it yet.

 

Also, buying a really big screen doesn't mean you really have to sit that far back... it just means you have to lower the TV so you're at a better angle and don't end up looking up at the picture. For example, I have a 40" HDTV and I sit just a little over a metre away. If I were to have a bigger TV, like a 52" like I really wanted... I'd still sit the same distance away... I'd just have the TV lower to the ground XD

 

Oh and another thing about Blu-ray is the sound... in fact, I think that's the best part about Blu-ray because that's the first thing I noticed when I switched from DVD to Blu-ray... the sound quality is awesome, I love it.

[JediAthos]

3D movies have been around since the 1922. However, they got big in the 1950's and then again in the 1980's. Have you seen a 3D movie lately? My guess is you haven't since all you have to do is compare Jaws 3D to Avatar to know it isn't the same technology. There is a world of difference and I am not talking quality of story, but only the quality of the picture.

 

You can say you don’t want to pay to see Star Wars in 3D, but saying that is 20 year old technology is unfair. I’ve taken family members to a number of 3D movies in recent years and I was going to see the 3D movies in the 1980’s for my own entertainment and I for one can see the difference.

 

While 3D does not make a crappy movie good, it can enhance a well written movie making it slightly better. I just hope they continue the current trend and release most movies in both formats.

 

Nope...sure haven't seen a 3D movie recently mostly because I have absolutely no desire to. I don't see the attraction to be honest, and not worth my money no which movie they attach it to. Same thing with 3D TV...that and I have no desire to sit and wear 3D glasses while watching football. The one pair of glasses I have is enough.

[mimartin]

But the question is is it really necessary?

No, it is not necessary, but that is hardly a fair question considering television, DVD, books, music, games (unless you are Lynk) and other entertainment are not necessary. Blu-Ray improves the movie watching experience. While Blu-Ray may not be worth the added cost to you and others, this does not mean that everyone feels the same way as you.

I must admit that part of my reason for seeing 3D as a gimmick is that I wear glasses, which makes watching a 3D movie rather uncomfortable - I can't sit through an entire film wearing two sets of glasses, and I'll wager that is the same for many others.

There is this other gimmick called contact lenses.

Nope...sure haven't seen a 3D movie recently mostly because I have absolutely no desire to. I don't see the attraction to be honest, and not worth my money no which movie they attach it to. Same thing with 3D TV...that and I have no desire to sit and wear 3D glasses while watching football. The one pair of glasses I have is enough.

So you are being overly critical when you have not even seen the new technology.

[Prime]

Damn, most of you guys are dead inside!

[GeneralPloKoon]

Damn, most of you guys are dead inside!

 

Imma Zombie?

[Salzella]

I think it'd be pretty cool to see SW at a cinema, in 3D. you people smell of cynicism...

[Astor]

There is this other gimmick called contact lenses.

 

Certainly true, however my dexterity as far as that's concerned is such that I'd be blind before too long.

[JediAthos]

Damn, most of you guys are dead inside!

 

I'm pretty sure I'm not...but if I discover otherwise I'll let ya know:thmbup1:

[Prime]

I'm not convinced!

[The Doctor]

The reason I refer to Blu-Ray/HD as a "gimmick" is that the technology itself is hardly that much superior to DVD/SD quality on most standard screens; and I don't know about the other ~20 year old students around here, but I don't have $3000+ lying around to shell out for an HD television, nor the extra disposable income to throw away on the Blu-Ray discs themselves (I can buy the same movie on DVD for $20 or less that on Blu-Ray costs anywhere from $40 to $60). Both technologies are simply far too expensive to be commercially viable, and I expect they will be for at least another five years, if not longer.

 

I don't deny that 1080p is a significant step forward in the way we make and view movies and television. But in my opinion, the fad that is HDTV and Blu-Ray has hit about a decade too early. Lucas could make far more money if they made this move in 2015 or later, when the technology is affordable enough to be in every home. But alas, people like myself who can't afford the technology get this massive backlash of people questioning our taste, values, sanity, etc. (lookin' at you, adamqd) simple because we don't get ourselves excited over something that is, for the foreseeable future, beyond our financial reach.

[mimartin]

Most Blu-Rays I purchase are about $9.00 over the price of a DVD and while I was stupid enough to pay over $3000 for my HDTV, the same size TV today is less than 1/4 of that with a better picture than mine. A 46 Sony Bravia 1080p is selling for 829.00 on Amazon. I paid over $3000 for a Sony Bravia 32 inch 1080i about 21/2 to 3 years ago. Still when I was in college I would not have been able to afford even the 32 Bravia selling for 549.00 today unless I gave up drinking.

[adamqd]

But alas, people like myself who can't afford the technology get this massive backlash of people questioning our taste, values, sanity, etc. (lookin' at you, adamqd) simple because we don't get ourselves excited over something that is, for the foreseeable future, beyond our financial reach.

 

Dont gimme that Crap, you at me so I at you back, nothing regarding Values sanity or financial situations was mentioned.

[The Doctor]

Most Blu-Rays I purchase are about $9.00 over the price of a DVD

 

I can't say I've seen any price difference that small. Everywhere I look Blu-Rays are selling for at least $15-20 more than a DVD copy of the same thing. And the sad thing is, the price difference seems to grow the older the movie gets; the DVD drops down below $20 in a few months, but the Blu-Ray doesn't go much below $35.

 

I was stupid enough to pay over $3000 for my HDTV, the same size TV today is less than 1/4 of that with a better picture than mine. A 46 Sony Bravia 1080p is selling for 829.00 on Amazon. I paid over $3000 for a Sony Bravia 32 inch 1080i about 21/2 to 3 years ago.

 

$3000, $850, it makes little difference - it's still too expensive for me these days, particularly considering the near-unnoticeable (at least to me) difference in quality between SD and HD media. I can't understand people who'd rather pay nearly $1000 for a screen whose picture is not significantly different from one that costs $150-$200.

 

Still when I was in college I would not have been able to afford even the 32 Bravia selling for 549.00 today unless I gave up drinking.

 

I'm in much the same situation, but worse - instead of drinking, I'd had to give up paying rent. Which believe me, I'd love to do, but just can't justify doing so.

 

 

Dont gimme that Crap, you at me so I at you back, nothing regarding Values sanity or financial situations was mentioned.

 

I apologise if you feel I overreacted to your comment, but I'm sure you'd sympathise if everyone and his brother were criticising you because you'd bought into HDTV and Blu-Ray. I can't buy a DVD without someone bending over backwards to try and push the Blu-Ray copy on me, heralding it as the greatest form of media since cave painting and putting me down when I choose to stick with the affordable option. Still I'll be sure to give you the benefit of the doubt in similar cases in the future.

[mimartin]

I can't say I've seen any price difference that small. Everywhere I look Blu-Rays are selling for at least $15-20 more than a DVD copy of the same thing. And the sad thing is, the price difference seems to grow the older the movie gets; the DVD drops down below $20 in a few months, but the Blu-Ray doesn't go much below $35.

 

I bought Iron Man 2 SE Blu-Ray yesterday - $24.99 while the DVD SE was $22.99

 

Also purchased

 

Robinhood (Director's Cut) Blu-Ray - $25.99 while the DVD (Director's Cut) was $19.99.

 

In buying older movies on Blu-Ray I usually just wait for them to go on sell. I'm not going to replace a DVD with a Blu-Ray unless it is my favorite Movies (Star Wars) or it is a good deal.